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RockIslandLine commented on Ask HN: Why are personalised ads bad?    · Posted by u/theaeolist
theaeolist · 5 years ago
Not a single answer explain why targeted ads, legally and competently used, are in principle bad. Of course, like any technology it is not perfect and can be used for bad purposes or straightforwardly abused. That is obviously not the issue.
RockIslandLine · 5 years ago
Several people have given several reasons, many of which alone are enough to demonstrate awfulness.

The biggest reason they are bad is that they don't work. I would happily subscribe to a concierge service that showed me genuinely useful information. However, the advertising systems we have got are not built for my use case, they are built for someone else's which is adversarial to mine. I could not possibly care less about your quest to build brand loyalty and awareness.

As noted, people often get shown ads for products which they have already bought. When I buy a car, it's a safe bet that I don't need another car for several years. Every car advertisement that I see in that time is wasted effort for both the advertiser and myself. I also notice that nobody is advertising along the lines that might influence my choice. As a single, eco-conscious male, I don't need "three rows of seating" and I need "low zero to sixty" times even less. Automobile advertising is heavily devoted to the highly profitable SUV segment. Eliminate the Chicken Tax and promote decarbonized and efficient vehicles. Stop basing advertising campaigns around stoking even more antisocial behavior.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax

And the flip side, people getting shown advertisements for products they have rejected is also wasted effort. I don't need penis pills, and every advertisement I have ever seen for them has always been wasted effort.

Stop polluting my information streams with awful crap I don't need.

Nobody likes being watched. Instrumenting the interaction that I need so that you can make wrong inferences about my preferences is pretty galling. Undermining my control over what information I do give out is worse.

https://proprivacy.com/guides/super-cookies-flash-cookies

Further, not specific to targeted advertising is the method of advertising. Advertisements in popup windows are a terrible idea. Forcing me to take an action before giving me useful information is a terrible interaction model. And that's not designed to make me want to buy your product. Advertising when it exists should be as unobtrusive possible. Obnoxious behavior sucks.

RockIslandLine commented on Stanford apologizes after vaccine allocation leaves out medical residents   npr.org/sections/coronavi... · Posted by u/potench
pmoriarty · 5 years ago
Engineers have bosses, and they generally do what their bosses tell them to do.

So the responsibility should lie, as usual, with the people at the top, who set the direction for the company, not for low-level peons like engineers, who might be highly compensated, but the engineers don't set the direction for the company nor make the ultimate decisions regarding these algorithms.

But part of the tragedy of organizations is that responsibility tends to be diffused, so it's really hard to ultimately blame any one person.

There was a documentary (maybe called "The Corporation" or something) which showed some protestors outside some CEO's home, and the CEO's wife went out with some tea and cookies or something and invited the protestors inside their home to have a chat, and the CEO talked to the protestors and told them how helpless he himself was, as he was just part of the system with relatively limited ability to change it.

I'm not sure I buy that, and not sure the protestors did either, as the CEO still has enormous power. At the very least the CEO has the ear of the board of directors, and quite a lot of leeway as to how to run the business. They might not be able to change it all, but they can change a lot. Still, there's no denying that especially in a large organization no one person knows everything that's going on and can be accountable for absolutely everything, but leadership still exists and still is ultimately responsible.

RockIslandLine · 5 years ago
"and the CEO talked to the protestors and told them how helpless he himself was, as he was just part of the system with relatively limited ability to change it. I'm not sure I buy that, and not sure the protestors did either, as the CEO still has enormous power."

Precisely. Nobody should accept that kind of obvious nonsense.

People are put into positions to make decisions. So make better decisions.

RockIslandLine commented on January 1, 2021 is Public Domain Day: Works from 1925 are open to all   web.law.duke.edu/cspd/pub... · Posted by u/samizdis
sagarm · 5 years ago
Ethanol mandates are an excellent example. Completely stupid policy -- better to literally just pay farmers to do nothing -- but still, it lives on, because Iowa is the first state in the primaries.
RockIslandLine · 5 years ago
Iowa may be an example of how ethanol is done wrong in practice, but I'm not sure your theory is so sound.

Make ethanol from sugar cane, not corn. Louisiana should be the center of US ethanol production. Much higher EROEI.

RockIslandLine commented on Study identifies reasons for soaring nuclear plant cost overruns in the U.S.   news.mit.edu/2020/reasons... · Posted by u/consumer451
oconnor663 · 5 years ago
I trust airlines with my life without even thinking about it. Sometimes we even make fun of people who are afraid of flying.

Incentives make a big difference here. Ignoring everything else, airlines don't want to lose their hundred million dollar machine in an accident. And the person most directly responsible for the safety of the flight -- the pilot -- is sitting right there in the machine with the rest of us. It's a good arrangement with a long track record.

I could imagine corporate-run nuclear plants that have the same incentives as airlines. I could also imagine bad ones, run by Homer Simpson. It probably makes more sense to judge case by case.

RockIslandLine · 5 years ago
"I could imagine corporate-run nuclear plants that have the same incentives as airlines."

So how exactly do you enforce that corporate executives and their families must live on site for decades?

RockIslandLine commented on Is it better to plant trees or let forests regrow naturally?   wired.com/story/is-it-bet... · Posted by u/nsoonhui
mikepurvis · 5 years ago
Burying newly-grown wood seems like a difficult thing to achieve economically. Surely it's almost as good to build that wood into long-lasting structures where it is equally protected from rot, and then when demolition does occur, ensure that the rubble is buried underground?
RockIslandLine · 5 years ago
Why? We've got lots of coal mines with the equipment to move tons of material. Just start stacking cordwood down below.
RockIslandLine commented on Animal Populations Fell by 68% in 50 Years and It’s Getting Worse   bloomberg.com/news/articl... · Posted by u/perfunctory
snarf21 · 5 years ago
You aren't wrong but to me you are focusing on the wrong things. As you say, the west is already dropping the birth rate and being more and more focused on sustainability, etc. Eventually, it will get there. Change takes time.

The big problem is the 3rd world. People there don't a have a choice. They don't want their family to starve. Women are largely forced into a reproduction role only. But we know that the way to reduce birth rate is to educate women and give them jobs and careers. We know that if we can create stable jobs in the 3rd world, they will stop clear cutting forests. To me, that is where the billionaires should be putting their money. If we raise the global standard of living enough, our high population problems will slowly revert.

RockIslandLine · 5 years ago
"They don't want their family to starve."

We know how to stop that. We don't have to sentence people to subsistence agriculture. When you know better, you do better, and we know better.

We can farm in ways that build high carbon soils. We can do this even in the 3rd world. Teach people the proper techniques.

It's nonsense to claim that we just have to accept this kind of collapse.

RockIslandLine commented on Animal Populations Fell by 68% in 50 Years and It’s Getting Worse   bloomberg.com/news/articl... · Posted by u/perfunctory
SpicyLemonZest · 5 years ago
Don't people engineer new biomes pretty frequently? It seems pretty defeatist to look at a world where we regularly transform dirt fields into grassy plains into food and think that we'll never be able to sustain ourselves if the climate changes.
RockIslandLine · 5 years ago
Engineering new biomes for fun is different than having to do it every year or you die.

What do you do when seasonal heat makes Pakistan and India uninhabitable for large parts of the year? We're not prepared for that kind of migration, we didn't even deal with Syria well.

Farming and other activities often require decades to truly show a profit. When rainfall patterns are changing on short timescales, you will not be able to plan for food production given the underlying churn in fertile locations.

RockIslandLine commented on Animal Populations Fell by 68% in 50 Years and It’s Getting Worse   bloomberg.com/news/articl... · Posted by u/perfunctory
christiansakai · 5 years ago
I was surprised that ESGV (Vanguard Index for responsible environmental friendly investing) does not include nuclear power there. I wonder what's the stigma bout nuclear?
RockIslandLine · 5 years ago
Several different issues. Nuclear is necessarily large & centralized energy production, with all of the antidemocratic politics and corrupt economics that comes with that.

The insane project duration and nonsense cost overruns for nuclear construction are their own problem.

And you get a lot of people who don't understand and don't want to understand the safety aspect.

https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/comed-bribery-s...

RockIslandLine commented on Honey bee venom found to kill breast cancer cells   abc.net.au/news/2020-09-0... · Posted by u/L_226
soperj · 5 years ago
I asked my girlfriend to sit on my lap. When she took a shit on my lap I wasn't mad though, since yes, it's two words, but they're pretty similar so confusion is inevitable.
RockIslandLine · 5 years ago
This kind of satire is unnecessary and unhelpful.

It costs nothing to say "lab testing" instead of "in vitro". Literally the same number of syllables, zero loss of precision, and immediately understandable to a wider audience.

RockIslandLine commented on SEC Modernizes the Accredited Investor Definition   sec.gov/news/press-releas... · Posted by u/cdiddy2
gojomo · 5 years ago
The SEC makes it easy to use standard arrangements if the investors are 'accredited'.

But mixing in any 'unaccredited' investors drives up the legal complexities and costs, through extra liabilities. A generous (or desperate) founder might still go through the extra headaches to take money from a wider circle, but many potential knowledgeable investors are encumbered and essentially frozen out, simply because they are sub-millionaires, due to extra legal hurdles. It's like everyone who's not a millionaire is a minor, not trusted to contract like an adult - but not based on age or competence, just net worth.

Millionaires face no such restrictions – and thus enjoy the state's support in preserving for themselves privileged, first-look access to a class of potentially-lucrative investments.

It'd be like if millionaires were granted their driver's license on request, because hey, they can be trusted. And we'll waive their fees for permit applications, because they surely hired good advice before applying. Car registration, marriage license? Free if you're rich, we know you won't be getting into any trouble.

But you're not a millionaire? Find a rich sponsor willing to be a counterparty, and pay extra fees, because you poor folks are just too risky to [drive, build, marry, etc].

RockIslandLine · 5 years ago
"legally complex" is different from "impossible".

And yes, people who have years worth of expenses saved are clearly better able to accept risk than someone with $10K in an IRA.

You're not making persuasive arguments here at all. An in both theory and in practice I'm on your side.

u/RockIslandLine

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