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LanceNY commented on How to Run Adobe Photoshop 2024 on Wine (Linux)   forum.mattkc.com/viewtopi... · Posted by u/walterbell
KronisLV · 2 years ago
> Surprised nobody mentioned GIMP yet.

People will say that GIMP cannot compete with Photoshop in some use cases, I'm just happy that I don't have to worry about those and it's completely sufficient for what I want to do, same with LibreOffice vs MS Office and other imperfect FOSS projects. They might not always be the best choice out there, but they’re almost always decent.

LanceNY · 2 years ago
Most of the areas or things the PS alternatives can't do, are things PS should never have done, like 3d and animation. Krita even has an AI plugin that is great. I'm a pro, and PS has tons of tools I've never needed or wanted.
LanceNY commented on How to Run Adobe Photoshop 2024 on Wine (Linux)   forum.mattkc.com/viewtopi... · Posted by u/walterbell
dijit · 2 years ago
Ugh, I wish we could put the adobe suite into the ground.

The company is hostile and scummy, and the tech is only slightly above alternatives in most cases.

It survives today on pure inertia, because everyone knows it. Which feels absurd to me- worst idea wins because it's the one everyone knows. And we'll keep using it so that the next generation only know that one thing.

Great for Adobe's profitability, awful for humanity.

LanceNY · 2 years ago
Spot-on.
LanceNY commented on How to Run Adobe Photoshop 2024 on Wine (Linux)   forum.mattkc.com/viewtopi... · Posted by u/walterbell
quitit · 2 years ago
A non-expert workflow for photoshop is editing images in the CMYK colour mode and handling the use of specials such as pantone colours or custom ink mixes.

Photopea has a CMYK mode, which is great, but despite the document being in CMYK mode the swatches adjacent are RGB. A useful approach would be to automatically convert RGB swatches to the destination colour space, since that's how they look when one uses them.

I also noticed the layer blending modes were undertaken in the RGB colour space rather than CMYK despite the document colour mode setting. This difference produces different results especially if using the transparency modes screen and multiply which behave a fair bit differently in the CMYK colour mode versus the RGB colour mode. A person that opens the Photopea PSD in photoshop would thus see a different result which the Photopea user did not intend.

Next I noticed that the channel management for the CMYK plates and specials provided no ability to set or manage the specials plate. For example when utilising a pantone colour one would need to establish an additional plate and input the LAB value for the ink, there didn't seem to be any way of doing that, however it supported what was already in the sample PSD file I loaded into it.

I didn't delve into colour profiles and control over dot gain, but that is another aspect which is usually absent in Photoshop alternatives.

Also just rehashing that the above is not expert-level, anyone in the industry would be familiar with these concepts and find themselves needing to manage them for production output. This is what I mean when I say to people "you don't need photoshop, get something better", non-industry people don't need to be fussing over whether the document intention should be perceptual or absolute (or seldom used middle-grounds), what is the output LPI, or device pixel requirements, what byte order is supported by the RIP, what their ink weights maximums are, or adjusting screen angles to deter plate mottling.

LanceNY · 2 years ago
Hi, you make all excellent points. However they do sound more like comments from 2002, not 2024. With the complete takeover of the web, digital media, and digital photography, just where do you imagine all this cmyk stuff is still happening? Save for the last vestiges of print, it isn't. Most work today goes from rgb, to rgb, and then to rgb. Maybe throw in sRGB as well. So cmyk, nice to have, but not needed for most pro work today. FWIW, 40 years pro work at top NYC ad agencies and pub houses.

u/LanceNY

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