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Hippocrates commented on “Vibe Coding” vs. Reality   cendyne.dev/posts/2025-03... · Posted by u/birdculture
thunky · a year ago
The things you mentioned it does well on are things that help you avoid tedium, but I don't think that's what's most important to businesses. The things you mentioned it does poorly at are the things that matter most.

To pile on: if a large part of our job is purely mechanical, then there is a bigger problem with our engineering processes and AI can't fix that.

Hippocrates · a year ago
> if a large part of our job is purely mechanical, then there is a bigger problem with our engineering processes and AI can't fix that.

It is! And AI is fixing precisely that. What businesses actually care about (well, 99% of them where code is written) is shipping fast and solving the immediate problem, NOT code quality and craft. It goes against what I want to believe as an engineer. Most problems are not new, they are not hard, they are not sensitive. You will need to start with a good understanding of the business need. It's not that the AI can't code to this. I will often stub out an abstraction, explain inputs/outputs in detail, provide sample data etc. That's all. There are frighteningly few showstopper problems with AI coding at this point, and it's moving so quickly.

We're not at the point where non-engineers are capable engineers with AI, but if you are an engineer not using AI extensively, you are being lapped.

Hippocrates commented on “Vibe Coding” vs. Reality   cendyne.dev/posts/2025-03... · Posted by u/birdculture
Hippocrates · a year ago
It makes me feel very secure in my job that so many engineers ITT are downplaying the ability and productivity of AI coding tools. You can pry cursor out of my cold dead hands. If you aren't seeing a 10x boost, then you must not have tried it lately, or haven't got the experience to prompt well.

What it excels at: - Boilerplate code that's been written 1000x, which can saps your time and enthusiasm for the meaty problems beyond that.

- Complex DSA work. It has been demonstrated millions of times in training material.

- Simple and tedious tasks like making dummy data for tests and struct literals.

- Tightly scoped refactors.

Where does it falter?

- Mapping your product/business to the code or abstractions needed. I think this is where junior devs struggle to leverage it.

- Doing large scale multi-file refactors without proper specifics, guidance, and context. It also can't write a huge project from scratch. Humans are still need to fit the pieces all together or provide guidance. I think this gap closes soon.

Code quality simply isn't a problem IME. If it didn't one-shot your dream abstraction, you probably weren't specific enough in the prompt. Most human-written code is also junk, so pointing out a minor gaffes isn't really a dunk on AI. It's still a massive productivity booster if wielded by even a half-competent engineer.

Hippocrates commented on Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far   9to5mac.com/2024/12/16/mo... · Posted by u/mgh2
Hippocrates · a year ago
If you make the user "go to the AI" and activate it somehow, you did it wrong.

A good AI/LLM experience is one which meets you where you are already working. Github Copilot is FAR from the best LLM at coding, but it is amazingly useful the way it integrates with my workflow.

On the other hand, Apple's Image Playground, Genmoji, and writing tools all make you visit the AI feature to use it. Same problem with chatGPT. It's absolutely painful to visit a web UI and copy/paste information in and out of the thing to get anything done.

I actually do get a little value from Apple's notification group summaries. AI/LLMs need to be blended into existing places. Bring the AI to the user, don't make the user go to the AI.

To put it another way. AI is not a feature. It can make a feature better. Somehow everyone wants it to be a standalone feature. It is not.

Hippocrates commented on OpenERV   openerv.ca... · Posted by u/graboy
Hippocrates · a year ago
What’s so good about fresh air? Like I don’t want stinky stuffy air but as someone with central HVAC I had no issues with my indoor air. Are we trying to get outdoor smells? Or is it something else?
Hippocrates commented on A look at Apple's technical approach to AI including core model performance etc.   interconnects.ai/p/apple-... · Posted by u/xrayarx
infecto · 2 years ago
I mostly agree with you. OpenAI is reportedly still doing great in terms of revenue, but Apple's implementation is magical if it performs as shown in the keynote. In my opinion, it's the best implementation of LLM/AI in a consumer device. It's amusing to think back to all the buzz around Humane's AI pin.
Hippocrates · 2 years ago
> It's amusing to think back to all the buzz around Humane's AI pin

It certainly is. And the Rabbit R1. How in the world did people who supposedly know anything about AI think they could make that work as a standalone device detached from rich context. The sad thing is, rich context may not be possible outside of OS-level integration that is gate kept, but I still think they're idiots for trying.

Hippocrates commented on A look at Apple's technical approach to AI including core model performance etc.   interconnects.ai/p/apple-... · Posted by u/xrayarx
seydor · 2 years ago
a little cope for the fact that apple failed to present state of the art performance
Hippocrates · 2 years ago
Why does SOTA matter here? OpenAI has actually failed already to make something useful and mass-market. After all these years of pushing SOTA, it's still a website with a text box. Siri in its current form is more useful to me than ChatGPT 4. You simply don't need SOTA models for a lot of valuable features; you need context, annotation APIs, and the right platform and integrations to assist users where they already are (on their phones, in cars, in their IDE, etc). MSFT's GitHub copilot is a good example of getting it right.

Apple relegated ChatGPT to a 3rd tier AI capability for "google answers", and "write me a poem" party tricks, and rightfully put it behind a privacy disclaimer. It looks barely better than the various ChatGPT shortcuts so many people have cobbled together. That part of the announcement stuck out like a sore thumb and looked to me like a huge L for OpenAI. The "partnership" was a nothingburger. Like someone at Apple agreed to it early on but then late in the project realized it wasn't needed at all. So much for SOTA.

Hippocrates commented on Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024   zdnet.com/article/forget-... · Posted by u/drx
Hippocrates · 2 years ago
Thank god. I think 1pw has been mostly good, but it has frustrating quirks... Like requiring me to input the master password on the iOS app/OSX/Browser extension (on the same device) as if each of these apps have no way of communicating.

I constantly have issues with it not engaging on a form where I have to manually switch to 1pw, though it has gotten a bit better over the years.

I hate to see a company/product get sherlocked but I don't feel like password security was something we should need to have a subscription for.

Hippocrates commented on Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac   apple.com/newsroom/2024/0... · Posted by u/terramex
TechnicolorByte · 2 years ago
Have to say, I was thoroughly impressed by what Apple showed today with all this Personal AI stuff. And it proves that the real power of consumer AI will be in the hands of the platform owners where you have most of your digital life in already (Apple or Google for messaging, mail, photos, apps; Microsoft for work and/or life).

The way Siri can now perform actions based on context from emails and messages like setting calendar and reservations or asking about someone’s flight is so useful (can’t tell you how many times my brother didn’t bother to check the flight code I sent him via message when he asks me when I’m landing for pickup!).

I always saw this level of personal intelligence to come about at some point, but I didn’t expect Apple to hit it out of the park so strongly. Benefit of drawing people into their ecosystem.

Nevermind all the thought put into private cloud, integration with ChatGPT, the image generation playground, and Genmoji. I can genuinely see all this being useful for “the rest of us,” to quote Craig. As someone who’s taken a pessimistic view of Apple software innovation the last several years, I’m amazed.

One caveat: the image generation of real people was super uncanny and made me uncomfortable. I would not be happy to receive one of those cold and impersonal, low-effort images as a birthday wish.

Hippocrates · 2 years ago
The AI/Cartoony person being sent as a birthday wish was super cringey, like something my boomer father would send me. I'm a fan of genmoji. That looks fun. Less a fan of generated clip art and "images for the sake of having an image here", and way, way less into this "here, I made a cornball image of you from other images of you that I have" feature. It's as lame as Animoji but as creepy as deepfakes.
Hippocrates commented on OpenAI and Apple Announce Partnership   openai.com/index/openai-a... · Posted by u/serjester
Hippocrates · 2 years ago
I was surprised how little they are leaning on OpenAI. Most of the impressive integrations that actually look useful are on-device or in their private cloud. OpenAIs ChatGPT was relegated to a corner of Siri for answering "google queries", if you grant it permission. This seems like an L for OpenAI, not being a bigger part of the architecture (and I'm glad).
Hippocrates commented on Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac   apple.com/newsroom/2024/0... · Posted by u/terramex
Hippocrates · 2 years ago
The OpenAI/ChatGPT part of this looks pretty useless. Similar to what some shortcuts like “hey data” already do. I was shocked, and relieved that Apple isn't relying on their APIs more. Seems like a big L for OpenAI.

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