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AsyncAwait commented on The Capitol Attack Doesn’t Justify Expanding Surveillance   wired.com/story/opinion-t... · Posted by u/jimmy2020
dang · 5 years ago
You've been using HN primarily for political battle. We ban accounts that do that, because it destroys the curious conversation that this site exists for.

When I looked back through your account history trying to find examples of using the site as intended, rather than political flamewar, I ran across https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25626137 instead. That's not a political flamewar comment, but it still breaks the site guidelines badly. I've banned this account until we get some indication that you want to use HN as intended. If you do, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us some reason to believe it.

AsyncAwait · 5 years ago
You don't see the irony of censoring a leftie in a thread that complains about the right getting censored by a 'left-wing witch hunt' do you?

I have had plenty of interesting debates on here; when it comes to politics however, HN has a certain bias and an ideological blind spot. The narrative that the left is censoring everybody while you have Republican legislators passing this[1] is laughable, yet the narrative persists because it's not being challenged.

I do try to see the other side[2] when I think it makes sense. Playing victim of the left while a right-wing mob just stormed the Capitol is not one of these times, sorry.

The cynic in me thinks this is what YC wants; it promotes the sort of thinking on which VC thrives. I have little reason to believe otherwise. There's few people on HN challenging these narratives and now there's even fewer.

1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-BDS_laws#Anti-BDS_laws_in...

2 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25691631

AsyncAwait commented on The Capitol Attack Doesn’t Justify Expanding Surveillance   wired.com/story/opinion-t... · Posted by u/jimmy2020
gedy · 5 years ago
You don't have to be right or left wing to call out hypocracy, especially if there's historical precedence.
AsyncAwait · 5 years ago
The hypocrisy is that the US has and is supporting 'which hunts' all over the globe, which the right largely supports. Perhaps it's just that it's also starting to come back home now.
AsyncAwait commented on The Capitol Attack Doesn’t Justify Expanding Surveillance   wired.com/story/opinion-t... · Posted by u/jimmy2020
AsyncAwait · 5 years ago
Funny how you suddenly supposedly have sympathy for the victims of McCarthyism while the right is still today calling anyone left of the far right a communist marxist.

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AsyncAwait commented on Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store   play.google.com/store/app... · Posted by u/jimmy2020
nimbleal · 5 years ago
Interested to know you see the drone strike app as a left issue? I don’t think opinions on foreign intervention fall very neatly along the left-right spectrum
AsyncAwait · 5 years ago
I think what falls more on the left is caring that the drone strikes kill 90% civilians.

The right is much more inclined to agree with the characterization that it's mostly terrorists we're killing or that why are civilians around them.

To what some on the right might object is why are we spending all this money on this, which they might even arrive at ultimately the same conclusion as the left but for a different reason.

AsyncAwait commented on Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store   play.google.com/store/app... · Posted by u/jimmy2020
djsumdog · 5 years ago
The purge has been happening for years. I hate how people on HN is praising this. There are literally few alternatives for the average person apart from Google and eyeProducts. I have a PinePhone, but what percentage of America can truly put in the effort to use one? <1%.

If you cannot install an run your own software on a device, you do not own the device.

You cannot praise the removal of Gab or Parlor now and complain later when they take everything else from you. They can increase the Apple developer fees whenever they want. What happens when they start charging you $2,000 a year or $4,000 a year for the right to publish apps? What happens when the two big platforms decide no one can push an app unless their platform has full moderation.

What happens when Google and Apple, for your safety, say all user contributed content must go through their "spam" filter first for any apps?

This is horrific. You may not like Parlor, but it will not stop here. This is a dangerous place we are in and we should all be horrified by it. People are horrified right now, but they're focused on the wrong thing.

AsyncAwait · 5 years ago
I haven't seen the right screaming when there's Republican legislators passing anti-BDS legislation all over. That's the purest form of censorship targeting primarily people on the left and yet crickets.

Maybe the so called free speech absolutists are not as principled as they say.

AsyncAwait commented on Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store   buzzfeednews.com/article/... · Posted by u/coloneltcb
dcolkitt · 5 years ago
Honest question: Who do you consider the smartest Trump supporter? Do you think you have anything to learn from them by engaging in a good faith discussion?

My point being maybe you think 95% of MAGA-hats are off their rocker, and Trumpism taken as a whole is grossly misguided. I don't really disagree. But is it possible that there's some core nugget of wisdom to take away. Something, perhaps that your current worldview is glossing over.

Instead of just writing off the political beliefs of literally half the people in America, maybe we should really be super certain that we make a genuine attempt to understand where they're coming from.

At worst, we've wasted some time talking to idiots. But my guess is if we make a good-faith and honest attempt to find the best and brightest Trumpists out there (instead of just smugly dunking on the dumbest trolls on the Internet), that maybe, just maybe there may be a kernel of truth underlying their ideology.

AsyncAwait · 5 years ago
Not OP, but I'd gladly have a discussion with some coal miner who felt like politicians weren't representing him and fell for the populist rhetoric Trump would sometimes use.

The reason? I don't think that sort of person voted for Trump because of the idea of Trump or a cult of personality. They simply got duped and there are better solutions to their problems.

The folks that stormed D.C. are too far gone at this point.

AsyncAwait commented on Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store   buzzfeednews.com/article/... · Posted by u/coloneltcb
nicbou · 5 years ago
Someone brought an interesting perspective in another thread and I can't shake it off.

The other side keeps deplatforming them. Their legal cases are rejected. The mainstream media refuses to take them seriously. We're not even listening to them, because it's science and they're *ists if they disagree. We're not debating anymore. We just assume we're right.

We are slowly squeezing a significant segment of the population out of public debate, and they are powerless to stop it. Is it surprising that they are furious about it, and explode in unpredictable ways? Wouldn't you do the same?

E: I accidentally hit submit halfway through my argument. You might be replying to a really different comment

AsyncAwait · 5 years ago
I get what you're saying but the other side of the coin is maybe the society at large is rejecting them. And they need to understand that they're not guaranteed an audience, If the society at large doesn't want to listen then they'll have to sloowly try to win some support.

They seem to forget that many on the left fought tooth and nail historically for things we now consider for granted but society wasn't on board for in the past.

And maybe some ideas just aren't that appealing and they'd do better to pull other ones to advocate for.

AsyncAwait commented on Ask HN: How would you convince your friends and family to switch from WhatsApp?    · Posted by u/millibar
nunodonato · 5 years ago
signal is a messaging app. telegram is a damn nice platform for a lot of stuff, messaging included :)
AsyncAwait · 5 years ago
Privacy excluded.

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