When I click through on one of the blog posts I see:
"Advanced users can also help to correct problems: we welcome contributions. We expect people to tell us what needs to be corrected, but they can also do it and submit their patches. This is the way it worked with SFLphone and it works pretty well."
So you have no idea IF there are any problems, or do you know that there ARE problems, but you assume they will be corrected soon? If any of the above then how can you state "Ring gives you a ... an unmatched level of privacy."?
I am sorry to be negative about something that seems like it has our privacy at heart, but promising privacy when it might not be there at all is reckless. We in the first world have issues like "I don't want my e-mails scanned by companies" or "I don't want companies to see what I write", but in other parts of the worlds you can be killed if the wrong piece of communication falls in certain hands. So it is pretty important to get it right. You (Ring) provide no information on the site about the state of the code, reviews being done, etc.
> The ZRTP encryption mechanism is no longer supported (please use TLS+SRTP)
I thought SRTP used certificates rather than the diffie-hellman handshake used by ZRTP -or to put it another way, doesn't this destroy forward secrecy?
Savoir-Faire Linux are a local Montréal company with a lot of clout. I don't consider their promises empty, and I'm excited to see them working on this.
There's a fair amount of criticism brought up here, but I'd like to say that there are bunch of things that looks very promising, at least in the OS X version. Lots of software like this sucks terribly from a usability perspective, but here you have a nice web page (yeah, you need screenshots), a beautiful icon and a usable GUI.
What I'd REALLY like to see is a way to share one or multiple folders of files with my private darknet. If that's possible or not with the technology you use, I don't know. I've been missing a WASTE[1] like communication tool for as long as I can remember.
I guess one of your "competitors" will be Tox. But going to https://tox.im/ I still can't just download a client without going to a messy wiki and get nightly binaries. How many casual users know what a binary is?
Years ago the Christmas Island registry used to give away free domain registration for open source projects. it used to be really common for projects like this one.
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When I click through on one of the blog posts I see:
"Advanced users can also help to correct problems: we welcome contributions. We expect people to tell us what needs to be corrected, but they can also do it and submit their patches. This is the way it worked with SFLphone and it works pretty well."
So you have no idea IF there are any problems, or do you know that there ARE problems, but you assume they will be corrected soon? If any of the above then how can you state "Ring gives you a ... an unmatched level of privacy."?
I am sorry to be negative about something that seems like it has our privacy at heart, but promising privacy when it might not be there at all is reckless. We in the first world have issues like "I don't want my e-mails scanned by companies" or "I don't want companies to see what I write", but in other parts of the worlds you can be killed if the wrong piece of communication falls in certain hands. So it is pretty important to get it right. You (Ring) provide no information on the site about the state of the code, reviews being done, etc.
GNOME client: https://github.com/max3903/SFLphone
KDE client: https://github.com/Elv13/sflphone-kde
Sounds like they recently relocated from their old homepage at http://sflphone.org to this new domain and just don't have everything in order yet.
https://projects.savoirfairelinux.com/projects/ring/wiki
According to this their code repos:
Daemon:
https://gerrit-ring.savoirfairelinux.com/ring-daemon
Client library:
git://anongit.kde.org/libringclient
Clients:
https://gerrit-ring.savoirfairelinux.com/ring-client-gnome
git://anongit.kde.org/ring-kde
https://gerrit-ring.savoirfairelinux.com/ring-client-macosx
Not really well organized.
(I am one of the developer, ask me anything)
EDIT: There is screenshots on that page
I thought SRTP used certificates rather than the diffie-hellman handshake used by ZRTP -or to put it another way, doesn't this destroy forward secrecy?
What are the advantages compared to Tox?
I see one advantage of Tox compared to Jitsi. Account management is decentralized on Tox and federated on the protocols Jitsi supports.
Are there plans to support Tox as a backend?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SFLphone
https://projects.savoirfairelinux.com/projects/ring/wiki
However the interesting part is the new decentralized "DHT calls". I wonder how well it works.
What I'd REALLY like to see is a way to share one or multiple folders of files with my private darknet. If that's possible or not with the technology you use, I don't know. I've been missing a WASTE[1] like communication tool for as long as I can remember.
I guess one of your "competitors" will be Tox. But going to https://tox.im/ I still can't just download a client without going to a messy wiki and get nightly binaries. How many casual users know what a binary is?
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WASTE
Thanks for your input. We are in alpha release and the website is also a work in progress.
http://gpl.savoirfairelinux.net/ring-download/
Choose a directory from here.
Lol
Care to elaborate on this insightful remark?