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Freak_NL · 17 days ago
The Hyperion Cantos is a masterpiece which every scifi fan ought to have read, but I would like to recommend a lesser known title of Simmons for readers who have read at least some works of Charles Dickens (self-explanatory) and Wilkie Collins (such as The Woman in White or The Moonstone).

Simmons wrote Drood (2009), which takes these two classical authors and places them in a mystery novel. What struck me as particularly masterful is that Simmons managed to write his prose in such a way that as a reader you soon forget that this book was not written in the 1800s — his tone and style match that of Dickens and Collins so convincingly.

nz · 17 days ago
Great writer. For people who want to get a taste of Simmons without committing to an entire book, I would recommend this (very) short story: The River Styx Runs Upstream[1].

[1]: https://talesofmytery.blogspot.com/2013/02/dan-simmons-river...

shrubble · 16 days ago
Has a Strugatsky Brothers “Roadside Picnic” feel.
rurp · 17 days ago
Despite being a huge fan of Simmons I had originally passed on this one because I didn't care for the Dickens novels I had read in school. At a family gathering I was surprised to learn that my Grandma was a big Simmons fan. She convinced me to give Drood a shot and sure enough I really enjoyed it! So I'd say it's worth checking out even if you're not a big Dickens reader.
jdashg · 16 days ago
I read Hyperion and I found it... alright, just not my thing. Maybe it is indeed a masterpiece but "that every fan of sci-fi ought to have read" oversells it. I honestly can't conscion the time to read the rest of the Cantos versus other things on my reading list. Quality does not alone compel consumption! :)
peterlk · 16 days ago
You have to read it all the way through. It’s a pretty hefty investment, but the series is truly a masterpiece. I had to read the whole series twice to feel like I was actually starting to understand some of the symbolism. I don’t blame people for not being able to get into it; it’s dense. But it’s so epic and there is so much symbolism and philosophy packed in.
UltraSane · 17 days ago
Carrion Comfort is a ridiculously entertaining novel.
tsumnia · 17 days ago
I favor Carrion over Hyperion and find myself repeating Sheriff Bobby Joe Gentry's line "I like junk" quite often.
layer8 · 17 days ago
> The Hyperion Cantos is a masterpiece which every scifi fan ought to have read

You have to have some affinity to religious/Christianity/church topics, otherwise it’s quite a turn-off.

mbeex · 17 days ago
Atheist here: Not true, there is much more in Hyperion (and even Endymion)
castral · 17 days ago
To be fair, the first novel Hyperion is quite literally a survey of major world religions, not just Christianity. It does settle onto Christian symbolism in the second book onward, but the first two novels alone are still worth reading for their ideas. No affinity required, it's just the default Western canon at work.
stickfigure · 17 days ago
I don't want to dogpile on the other comments (atheist, loved the book) but I think there's something interesting here.

Most science fiction tends to assume that religiosity will fade as humanity matures, and in a few thousand years we'll all have a good laugh at those silly ancient humans. This feels generally right to me. But it's not the only possible future, and Hyperion explores a far future in which religiosity becomes more ingrained.

I thought it was one of the more interesting aspects of the book, and contributed to the feeling of "not just another space opera". You don't have to appreciate religion to like the story.

bayindirh · 17 days ago
The religious themes are a thin veil in Hyperion, looking behind them opens another dimension to ponder about.

I’m not a Christian, BTW.

ceejayoz · 17 days ago
I have zero affinity for those and found it a fascinating read.
Supermancho · 17 days ago
It's interesting how different stories have different underlying religious underpinnings in different parts of the world. It's important to consider that these themes are precisely because the stories are born from the surrounding culture.

Christian references in the Cantos were probably incidental, given the expected familiarity of the intended audience (american white male young men). eg The Matrix trilogy started with the obvious messianic hero's journey, then attempted to expand it in the following films (karma, cycles of death and rebirth, etc).

For some, these religious messages can be a turn off, I agree. I happened to be raised in a culture that allowed me to ignore it more or less and I can recognize that.

samus · 17 days ago
It's up to anybody to not have a particular taste for religious topics, however, spirituality (or the lack thereof) is an important part of human culture and psychology. Therefore a science fiction novel in a sufficiently different setting from Earth's early 21st century really ought to cover these topics as well, lest the worldbuilding would be very shallow and the resulting work would likely lack depth.
kakacik · 17 days ago
Atheist/agnostic here, completely untrue statement
Trasmatta · 17 days ago
I disagree strongly. I'm not religious at all, and have a strong aversion to Christianity, and I loved those books.
LakesAndTrees · 16 days ago
I don’t, and this stands as one of the best reading experiences of my life.
Brian_K_White · 17 days ago
Atheist. Loved it.

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davkan · 16 days ago
Did you like Dune?
loloquwowndueo · 17 days ago
Entirely untrue.

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kjs3 · 16 days ago
You hate mythological subjects in mythological stories. Or, rather, you selectively detest them. Whatever you need to feel superior, I guess.
iamtheworstdev · 17 days ago
:shrug: I'm an Atheist, I loved the series.
rdedev · 17 days ago
I tried reading it but I couldn't get into it. Maybe it the heavy religious themes or just the science fiction being so far into the future? I really should give it a shot again
samus · 17 days ago
It starts very slowly and the worldbuilding is exquisite and you will likely uncover many facets only upon rereading it. However, it is well worth persisting.

Works with considerably more action are Olympus and Ilium.

sleepybrett · 17 days ago
It's Canterbury Tales structure put me off and the reveals didn't do anything for me. I think I stopped after the second book.
pilooch · 17 days ago
Try Flashback, it's darker but genius as well, maybe more approachable.
matthewsinclair · 17 days ago
100%. One of the genuine great writers.
clarkmoody · 17 days ago
Simmons opened new frontiers of thought for me with his Hyperion Cantos. A house with each room on a different planet. A heartbreaking tale of a daughter aging in reverse. A romance playing out over space and time. A grand piano on the pop-out balcony of a starship. The cruciform parasite. The Shrike.

Branches of humanity torn between decadent stagnation and radical evolution. The artificial intelligence civilization with its own agenda. The All Thing (Internet) as the third branch of government.

So much good stuff, published in 1989 no less.

Rest in Peace to a true legend.

libraryofbabel · 16 days ago
Oh, boy. The Shrike. That thing still haunts me in a way that no other monster or alien across all of Sci-fi or fantasy really does. It's something about the inscrutability of it, especially in the first novel (still my favorite) where its purpose and backstory haven't been revealed. Sure, it's scary, but I think the mystery of its motives - and its ability to unpredictably act apparently benevolently sometimes - is where the real terror lies.
samus · 17 days ago
He predicted social media as well. So many themes in this work only mentioned in passing, too many to develop in full...
globular-toast · 16 days ago
> A house with each room on a different planet.

My favourite part of that is the design of the house included a joke (I can't remember what the joke was, but that's not the point).

clarkmoody · 16 days ago
The bathroom was on a raft floating on the surface of an ocean planet.
melecas · 17 days ago
The TechnoCore using human minds as unwitting processing nodes — to solve a problem humans couldn't even be told about — reads differently every few years. 2026 is a particularly strange time to reread it.
perardi · 17 days ago
Also, that should have been the backstory of the Matrix, and not the whole “living power source” nonsense.
ortusdux · 17 days ago
I'm convinced that the studio forced the change to 'human batteries' out of concern over a conflict with Hyperion.
MikeTheGreat · 17 days ago
I saw a YouTube video where they said this was more-or-less the original backstory but then they changed it. I think it said that the People In Charge thought the 'living power source' would be easier for the audience to understand?

I don't have the link handy, and don't trust everything I read on the Internet, etc, etc.

But yeah - this makes so much more sense than breeding, raising, and feeding humans just to harvest their body heat.

gostsamo · 17 days ago
I'm sure that one Star trek episode had the same premise, together with something from Lem. The connection human/machine brain is rather old and human brains being used for computation is so reused, it is practically public domain.
xg15 · 17 days ago
I like how the other story that has this premise is Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
derangedHorse · 16 days ago
Sounds like Severance
Aromasin · 17 days ago
Wow. I picked up a copy of Hyperion this morning while taking a random stroll through town - something I rarely do during a work day anymore. I popped into a book shop on a complete whim, and picked it up as it had been on my list for a while. The coincidence feels deeply uncanny.
Loughla · 16 days ago
Do yourself a favor and get the audiobook after you read the physical book. It is, hands down, the best audiobook ever made. By far and away.
matthewsinclair · 16 days ago
Totally agree with this, too! The books are great and I’ve read all four a few times over, but the audiobooks are something else. The guy who reads them manages to strike a near perfect balance between “reading” and “acting” that is just such a pleasure to listen to. I think we must have listened to it beginning to end about another three or four times as a family during long car trips!
Kaibeezy · 17 days ago
I started reading it for the first time this week. It’s just a statistical anomaly… but humans are wired to notice and feel coincidence; it connects us to space and time in a way that must have helped make religion more believable.
bookofjoe · 17 days ago
"Coincidence is a glimpse of the scaffolding of reality."

I read that many years ago, forgot the source.

brownsound202 · 16 days ago
Hope you come back to this memory when they discuss the void that binds.
occz · 17 days ago
And I just finished The Rise of Endymion a few days ago. Uncanny indeed.
colkassad · 16 days ago
I've had this internet handle since the last century. Most people in here are talking about Hyperion but Simmons was a fantastic cross-genre author. My favorites were his historical fiction that contained a fantastical bent:

Drood: Has Wilkie Collins as an unreliable narrator, depicting the last five or so years of Charles Dickens' life.

Crook Factory: An FBI agent is sent to Cuba to keep an eye on Ernest Hemingway, hijinks ensue.

The Fifth Heart: Henry James and Sherlock Holmes team up to solve a mystery.

The Terror: Tells the story of what happened to the HMS Terror that attempted to make the northwest passage. The Arctic is a character in itself in this amazing story. I thought the TV mini-series was fine.

Abominable and Black Hills: I haven't read these yet but look forward to doing so.

Honestly, I think Dan Simmons is my favorite author. I know his politics became unpalatable but I could never find it in myself to care. My heart sank when I saw this post.

eigencoder · 16 days ago
I've only read the first Hyperion novel, none of his other works. Thanks for recommending them!
Gazoche · 17 days ago
I have never read an ending that was as sad, happy, clever and beautiful as the ending to Rise of Endymion. To this day it's one of the very few books that made me shed a tear.

Now, over decade later, I am in the middle of re-reading every book in the Cantos series back to back (this time in their original language), and still loving them.

Rest in peace Mr Simmons. You had the words of a poet and the mind of a dreamer.

globular-toast · 17 days ago
A girl I was infatuated with told me to read Hyperion when I was in my early 20s. Never read a book to try to win someone's affections. It won't work, but what's worse is you won't even enjoy the book.

I read a lot of SF and just last year I thought it was about time I gave it another go. I couldn't put it down. Almost couldn't believe what I was reading, it was so good. Continued to read the other three and it was just a good all the way through. Was quite sad when I finished and it was all over.

It now has a permanent place in my library. I expect I'll enjoy it even more on my next reading. I can only dream of giving people as much joy as an author like Simmons.

DonHopkins · 17 days ago
I had a copy of Hyperion but didn't read it for years because the scary knife robot on the cover seemed intimidating. I finally read it, and all the sequels, and they were great books, and hell YEAH that was an intimidating knife robot! Sometimes you CAN tell a book by its cover.
rurp · 16 days ago
I didn't know there was a type of bird called a shrike until long after I read Hyperion. The birds look and sound like cute little songbirds, kind of like a smaller mockingbird. But the way they hunt is hardcore. They capture small prey (lizards, grasshoppers, etc) and impale them on a spike from cactus or a broken branch. Then they return to eat them at their leisure.

It's rare to see their caches but a few times I've been out hiking in the desert and seen the remains of a little critter on a cactus thorn.

hinkley · 17 days ago
The scary knife robot is way, way more intimidating in person.
Eddy_Viscosity2 · 17 days ago
I still remember the first time I met a scary knife robot. Working fast food night shift was crazy times.
samus · 16 days ago
I find it awesome that the true nature and mission of the Shrike remains a secret.