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Posted by u/eljojo a day ago
Show HN: If you lose your memory, how to regain access to your computer?eljojo.github.io/rememory...
Due to bike-induced concussions, I've been worried for a while about losing my memory and not being able to log back in.

I combined shamir secret sharing (hashicorp vault's implementation) with age-encryption, and packaged it using WASM for a neat in-browser offline UX.

The idea is that if something happens to me, my friends and family would help me get back access to the data that matters most to me. 5 out of 7 friends need to agree for the vault to unlock.

Try out the demo in the website, it runs entirely in your browser!

Brajeshwar · 20 hours ago
Start treating the Future-You like a Stranger. Write for that stranger, your Future-You will thank you. We think we will remember, but we won’t. So, don’t be too harsh on yourself and make it easier for your future-you. If that stranger finds it easier, it will also be for others; your relatives, kids, etc.

Unless your work and life need to be very secretive, or involve matters of national or international importance, I personally think a simpler printed/written format that works without electronics/Internet would be a better option. Of course, the printed details can have simple encryption, which your family/friends can break using day-to-day quirks you shared, such as the family secret codes, the name of that pet in the town you grew up in, or the middle name from the story of your great-grandfather, etc.

Some time ago, my mother-in-law (erstwhile teacher) and my godmother-aunty (businesswoman) began to forget many things. Their kids have tried quite a few phone apps and whatnot with electronics. Finally, I have suggested enforcing just two things: a lot of Valet bowls around the house (at common places in all the rooms) and pocket notebooks with pens attached. They just write anything and everything, from money to kitchen items to anything they want. If they forgot something, refer to the notebooks. If a key is lost, try the Valet Bowl. Now, my plan is to train their muscle memory to drop/pick from the bowl (don’t try to remember) and write things down.

The idea of Valet Bowls comes from something someone mentioned on Hacker News.

cyode · 18 hours ago
This comment right? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41220059

(Funny how I can remember this comment from many months ago after never implementing the bowls, but I currently can’t remember where my car keys are. Should have implemented the bowls…)

Brajeshwar · 17 hours ago
Oh God, Yes. Now, in my favorited posts and comments.

For keys, there is only one place: the Keyholder wall-mounted near the main door, while still visible from the main Hall. Not easy to pick and go by “guests” without being seen by someone, but easy for residents to just walk out with one. I got the exact same ones from Amazon and wall-mounted them in all the homes where I serve as Printer-Repair Guy. 10+ years, I kinda have trained every family member’s muscle memory, “Keys go there and only there.” ;-)

Add/Edit: I also have a sticker I printed stuck to the Keyholder, in Monica’s words from Friends, “Got the Keys?”

hoppp · 7 hours ago
I talk to future me in code comments all the time and future me really appreciates past me for doing that.

Thank you past me for thinking about future me. Present me happy.

EvanAnderson · 7 hours ago
I consider learning the joy of receiving gifts from my past self to be a major point of career and life development.
aforwardslash · a day ago
5 out of 7 means you cannot be in an eg. car accident with more than 2 of them at a time, if there is the possibility of all of them present in the car not surviving.

Im also quite more practical - there are responsabilities that may go beyond a simple memory loss - eg. If one is in a coma or just hospitalized for a long period of time; trusted third parties may require access to your accounts even for simple stuff like paying bills/rent/cloud services.

bitexploder · a day ago
Low tech: I put my secret manager password in a physical journal that is locked in a fire proof, water proof vault and hidden somewhere only my partner and myself know where it is. I use a password manager. Everything else goes in the password manager.
repiret · a day ago
This is what I do too, but be warned about “fire proof” - a fire that results in the total loss of your house will create enough heat for enough time that fireproof gun safes and smaller fireproof lockboxes will be destroyed, or even if not, their contents will get hot enough to combust anyway.

A bank safe deposit box offers a different security profile that’s probably more robust against fire because banks burn less often than houses.

It’s probably not practical to really be robust against fire without being buried several feet deep.

paulgerhardt · a day ago
Just went through this. Sample size one:

While the fire resulted in the total loss of the house it was actually the water from the fire department not the heat that did proportionally more damage.

As a mental model you shouldn’t think of it as “what if my house burns down?” so much as “what if nice strangers roll up to my windows and chainsaw through my roof and spray 50,000 gallons of water in here?”

Yes everything in the mechanical room melted but everything in the rest of the house got hot, smoky, soaked and then moldy.

For root of trust materiel like social security cards, cash, passports put in a ziplock bag in a fireproof, waterproof safe. But for other storage I use clear “Ezy Storage” brand stackable 50L tubs labeled with Homebox QR codes. In the US, Target and Home Depot frequently stock them. I am very anti black and yellow tubs.

The majority of work post-fire goes to itemizing your house inventory for insurance. Even cataloging all your bathroom’s soaps by brand name rather than generic can make $100 difference. Multiply that by 500x different things.

From a threat model perspective I look at rooms from a “what would be salvageable in here if I emptied a swimming pool’s worth of water from some fire sprinklers”. Furniture and TVs are easy to replace. Other stuff less so.

Eduard · a day ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Gelsenkirchen_heist

In December 2025, items worth an estimated €30 million were stolen from a Sparkasse bank in the Gelsenkirchen suburb of Buer, Germany. The thieves used a large drill to break into the bank's underground vault and proceeded to crack over 3,000 safe deposit boxes.

8n4vidtmkvmk · 16 hours ago
Yes but your house has to burn down and you have to simultaneously lose your memory.

If your house and PC burn, restore from online backup.

If your brain burns, spouse restores from vault.

heavyset_go · 20 hours ago
That inventory will be available for seizure by court order for any variety of reasons, and you won't ever know about it until it's too late.

Something you keep in your home that no one knows about won't be inventoried.

duskdozer · 7 hours ago
>robust

Is there a better class of safe one could use that might be more successful even if not a guarantee? F/e even with a safe deposit box, one might still have some lower-tier items that would be impractical to store in one but you might want to do better than just out in the open.

ses1984 · a day ago
Another solution is to engrave your secret on something that’s stable up to household fire temperatures.
Spooky23 · 9 hours ago
Only thing about safe deposit boxes - make sure that things needed in the event of your death, especially your will, are not there.

The bank will seal the box as soon as they discover you are dead, and require a court order. Without a will, the executor will be whatever statutory person your state calls for.

victorbjorklund · 8 hours ago
Yea, bankbox is probably the best choice. In the extremely unlikely case the bank box gets robbed you will find out about it and can rotate the key.
syntaxing · 20 hours ago
I know there’s metal plates you can self stamp for crypto wallets. I’m sure you can do the same for this purpose.
willmadden · a day ago
Floor safes do better than above-ground safes.
eljojo · a day ago
do you store stuff in a bank? could you tell me more about it? my account gives me access to one for free and been meaning to put a yubikey there for a while but never have
maurycyz · a day ago
This. A physical safe provides something that you can't do digitally: It's hard, but not impossible to get in without credentials.

On the internet, it's either: Public for anyone in the whole world, or impossible to recover if anything goes wrong.

kylehotchkiss · a day ago
I've broken into Physical Safes using nothing more than a drill with a half inch bit (I was young and didn't want to drag myself to harbor freight to sacrifice a more suitable tool). Enough boreholes and I had access.

In hindsight, looking harder for the key would probably have been fruitful.

munk-a · a day ago
Alternative - my partner and I (and also two other close contacts) have password managers that contain each of the other one's secret. This was less an effort to help with the memory loss scenario and more of an effort to deal with death and access to services (especially to cease subscriptions and the like).

In a lower trust scenario you could probably use a lawyer as a broker of the secret (potentially even as part of a will).

rcxdude · a day ago
Password managers like bitwarden also have emergency access features which can do this, with the caveat of trusting them to enforce the requirement of access only being granted after a notification to the account holder is not denied in some time period (but unlike the lawyer you're not trusting them with the secret directly)
kwanbix · 20 hours ago
So if you and your partner die, whoever is part of your family is fck.
eljojo · a day ago
this is honestly a very pragmatic solution. the amount of life-long relationships i've seen vanish overnight has got me to reconsider my choices when it comes to single points of failure.

I like the idea of the lawyer, unlike normal people, they like sticking to their promises.

rcxdude · a day ago
In general whatever kind of backup plan you have for when you die could also work in this scenario, you may just need to think harder about anything that you do not want have revealed when you die.
tempestn · 17 hours ago
I'd advise sharing that knowledge with one trusted person outside your household too, especially if you and your partner have dependants.
eljojo · a day ago
sometimes simpler is the best. I am always on the move so vaults don't jive well with me. my concern would be for something to still happen to it, too. I'm trying to go by the principle of not putting all my eggs on one basket.
kortex · 4 hours ago
Glad to see this idea getting traction!

Had the same idea years ago (same hashicorp lib too) but lost motivation to polish it to the point I felt confident enough to Show HN. https://github.com/xkortex/passcrux

But given recent events, I want to restart work on it.

My use-case revolved more around preserving a master password e.g. to a password manager. I also wanted to support self-hosted backup, like hiding shares and giving directions to the parts to trusted friends. The shamir sharing part was straightforward but i really want to add forward error-correction to protect against partial data loss.

Terr_ · a day ago
The "lost my memory" scenario differs a bit from death/succession planning in that you can use biometrics... but IMO it's better to jump straight to the latter and concuss two birds with one stone.
kube-system · 6 hours ago
If you are preparing for accidents where memory loss might be an issue you might also want to consider that you could quickly be in a situation where:

* you forget that you have a clever password scheme

* you forget that you have data to decrypt

* your mental capacities are deteriorated enough that someone else takes over decisions making for you. This person may not know you or your data protection scheme.

* you are physically injured where biometrics are non functional. Or a biometric system with a limit on tries may have been tripped by those trying to help you.

* you were in an incident that your friends/family were also affected by

In my opinion, the best way to protect against these is simply write stuff down in plaintext somewhere that relies on physical security, like with documents in your home. Also notate what they are and why someone would need to access them and how.

kortex · 4 hours ago
That's why you have a public-ish recovery guide for all the other steps.
cbabraham · a day ago
eljojo · a day ago
no way!!!! I searched for a long time for a solution like this, many could encrypt using shamir but none took an actual file with browser upload and easy UX. and like, 14 years ago? my hats down to you my friend.

my zip bundles are 1-2 megabytes due to all the wasm, and you achieved this on so little. impressive job!

I'd love to hear what you think about mine, one of the differences is that it creates a ZIP file containing the recovery app in it, as well as a PDF with instructions for non-technical friends. Overall trying to make the recovery experience as smooth as possible.

but cheers, your version is the only one that I found that does basically what mine does, all the others fall short one way or another!

thephyber · a day ago
I wonder how many thousands or millions of useful projects are so well hidden that they are effectively nonexistent.
giantfrog · 10 hours ago
This system introduces a fun question: What’s more likely, that you suffer total spontaneous memory loss or your best friends betray you?
Schmerika · 9 hours ago
I think you'd have to plot a curve based on the potential reward of betrayal... I suspect that many Americans* would have their 5th closest friends committed or worse for low 6 figures. If in ~dire straits, as about half all Americans are, that number could get much lower.

* If my use of the word 'Americans' above is triggering, feel free to substitute it with 'people'.

whycombinetor · 5 hours ago
Yea, this project gives less "my contract partners will benevolently read my diary after I die" than "enabling and incentivizing my closest friends to hold a vote to redistribute all my assets amongst themselves"