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Posted by u/davnicwil 5 days ago
Show HN: I built a system for active note-taking in regular meetings like 1-1swithdocket.com...
Hey HN! Like most here regular meetings have always been a big part of my work.

Over the years I've learned the value of active note taking in these meetings. Meaning: not minutes, not transcriptions or AI summaries, but me using my brain to actively pull out the key points in short form bullet-like notes, as the meeting is going on, as I'm talking and listening (and probably typing with one hand). This could be agenda points to cover, any interesting sidebars raised, insights gotten to in a discussion, actions agreed to (and a way to track whether they got done next time!).

It's both useful just to track what's going on in all these different meetings week to week (at one point I was doing about a dozen 1-1s per week, and it just becomes impossible to hold it in RAM) but also really valuable over time when you can look back and see the full history of a particular meeting, what was discussed when, how themes and structure are changing, is the meetings effective, etc.

Anyway, I've tried a bunch of different tools for taking these notes over the years. All the obvious ones you've probably used too. And I've always just been not quite satisfied with the experience. They work, obviously (it's just text based notes at the end of the day) but nothing is first-class for this usecase.

So, I decided to build the tool I've always felt I want to use, specifically for regular 1-1s and other types of regular meetings. I've been using it myself and with friends for a while already now, and I think it's got to that point where I actually prefer to reach for it over other general purpose note taking tools now, and I want to share it more widely.

There's a free tier so you can use it right away, in fact without even signing up.

If you've also been wanting a better system to manage your notes for regular meetings, give it a go and let me know what you think!

Brajeshwar · 5 days ago
This is personal. However, many of the people I had meetings with love this. So, here we go.

Quite a while back, I realized that anything digital, from phones to computers, tends to become or look like very official/non-personal and hence looks bad, especially in 1:1 meetings. I decided to go with pen and paper, in a simple Notebook (A5 or A7 is my choice). I’m do not write anything personal, but the points shared or noted down between us are enough to remind me of any points that I might have noted in my mind.

I’ve carried this habit to many other meetings (non-1:1s too), even when there is a note-taker (AI or otherwise). My meeting notes usually get shared or used as references by other participants.

Even during the meetings, other participant(s) sometimes contribute to my notes. I don’t hate digital mediums; in fact, I have used Freeform on an iPad just like I use my Notebook for meeting notes.

The interesting part is that I learnt to draw like Dan Roam[1] quite a while back. So, my notes contain texts with a lot of arrows, stick figures, shapes, etc.

Sidenote: A lot of conversations got sidetracked to discussions about paper, fountain pens, the way I write, etc.

1. https://www.danroam.com

stronglikedan · 5 days ago
I like pen and paper for meetings because I can take notes while asserting dominance through constant eye contact. I can touch type, but I need to be looking at the screen to achieve the same level of accuracy with which I can blindly write.

Tangential: I also recently switched to paper without lines after 20 years, and it's been quite liberating.

Brajeshwar · 5 days ago
Fortunately, I was trained/forced to write on plain blank papers in school. So, I can pretty much course-correct my invisible lines. However, when I have a choice, I’ve decided to stick to dotted grids.
grimgrin · 5 days ago
what you see as "asserting dominance" i show as "giving respect"

are these the same things or are we reaching differently w/ the consideration

idiotsecant · 5 days ago
is this a very subtle troll?
CoffeeOnWrite · 5 days ago
> My meeting notes usually get shared or used as references by other participants.

How are you transcribing, or are you sharing photos?

Brajeshwar · 4 days ago
Hmmm! How many meetings do you do in a week? Unless, you are building a Meetings App or your company is about Meetings, I'd suggest reducing the Meetings enough that you don't have to Transcribe everything.

My meeting notes are, well, like comic books; quite a lot more drawings. So, people usually take pictures or I just take pictures and email them.

For instance, I was once in a meeting at a company planning the product roadmap for the next 3-5 years. I did a timeline-of-sort note with circles (inspired by DaisyDisk), complete with a few different colors. That note became the "official" starting base for the plan, shared across the company and referenced by the team.

jaffa2 · 5 days ago
Maybe a photocopier?
epec254 · 5 days ago
I LOVE this, exactly what I’ve been looking for.

Here’s the issue - all my meetings have confidential, sensitive info. I can’t use a version you host (or well, I could, but you won’t be willing to do the 6 month security review I need).

Can you give me a version I can host (or run locally) and I give you some $ one time or per year?

davnicwil · 5 days ago
yes, absolutely. I've been thinking about this too, I did plan to offer self hosted if there's demand and have built it with that in mind.

My email is davnicwil at gmail, please email me and let's talk about it!

xiconfjs · 5 days ago
Same here: no self-host, no way. Best would be a one-time payment option.
davnicwil · 5 days ago
thank you. I will definitely offer this. Please email me (davnicwil at gmail) just to connect and I'll update you when self host is available.
7777777phil · 5 days ago
Same issue. Sent you an email just now. Awesome product!
davnicwil · 5 days ago
thank you very much, replied :-)
incoming1211 · 5 days ago
What 6 month security review?
jherbkersman · 5 days ago
Love it, great idea. My humble advice: you’re on the top of HN right now—make it completely free. Overnight you could get some serious adoption (strike while the iron is hot!) Then build a few more features that people won’t be able to live without and THAT can be your paid tier.
davnicwil · 5 days ago
Good shout.

I'm going to give everyone who signs up today full access to everything and access to those features will be grandfathered in to any future plans.

The plans as you see them now are just rough shape anyway just to launch something!

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UPDATE

alright that should be implemented now, and all existing signups ported (if I got everyone :-)

Everyone is now on the 'Business' plan (full access to everything) on signup

k2m · 5 days ago
This is awesome. Thank you! Going to try this. Is there a plan to develop mobile app?
clemensnk · 5 days ago
Nice. Going to try this out.
gppmad · 5 days ago
Thanks for sharing it! What are the advantages of using the tool instead opening a simple google docs?
davnicwil · 5 days ago
I've put this in more words on the about page [0] but in my mind it all about the structure being first class for the regular meeting note use case, rather than a general document.

That means

- meetings notes are structured as entries, new entry in 1 click, with a template, with responsive structure

- easy to see who wrote what, everyone gets their own section

- first class action tracking and management of actions in one place

- distraction-free editor optimised for one-hand typing with only minimal formatting necessary to make notes tidy

- easier to search and navigate through history of notes

I think this applies for google docs but also other 'general' note taking tools and editors.

[0] https://withdocket.com/about

edmundsauto · 5 days ago
This reads a lot like a feature list to me. I don't understand the benefit from entries versus just an h1 tag. You can even collapse those down, and then docs will write you an index. Might be helpful to focus on the value prop more. It looks cool, but as a recovering GTD junkie, it looks more like a distraction than a core part of my everyday work.
thesamurai97 · 5 days ago
Already exists better to free and see the other one https://www.notetimeapp.com/diaries
cipehr · 5 days ago
Not sure if its better, but it is free and it works for me. Thank you for sharing!
guessmyname · 5 days ago
As much as people like to criticize Microsoft Teams, it actually offers a feature called Facilitator [1][2][3] that, to my knowledge, works very well. I say this based on both my own experience and feedback from friends who use it in their day-to-day work.

That said, I, of course, always welcome competition.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMoGOWOBicY

[2] https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/facilitator-in-mi...

[3] https://aka.ms/facilitator

voxelv · 5 days ago
The very first sentence in the "about" page has a typo (extra "and": ... meetings, and you <and> want to...):

You're in a ton of regular meetings, and you and want to take notes and actions to keep track of what's going on in them week to week.

davnicwil · 5 days ago
oh man, I thought I'd caught all these. Thank you! Fixed!
dwedge · 5 days ago
There's another : That was me, in meetings for years. So I decided to build Docket to be my tool. It could yours too.

Missing "be". Plus here is another vote for self hosted

pillefitz · 5 days ago
Wait, do I overlook something or is it just a shareable text file?
davnicwil · 5 days ago
essentially, yes! It's deliberately very focused and simple, but you also have

- actions (checkboxes) with mentions that you can track in one place

- images

- templates and one-click new entry

On the shared thing, it's opinionated in that it's not a shared single document like a google doc, rather everyone you share with gets their own section, so you can very easily see who wrote what.

devsda · 5 days ago
Lets say I have some private and silly questions that I need to take a note of & check first or I'm venting some frustration(hey that's what happens in meetings sometimes) in the notes, what do I do ?

May be add a small section for private notes ?