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keepamovin · 16 days ago
When I was a cartographer in the 1500s I used to hide dragons, sea serpents and the occasional heretical inscription in the blank bits, because at least back then the Holy Roman Emperor had the decency to pretend he didn’t notice as long as the tax broders were correct.

Now look at us: the Swiss federal cartographers, salaried, pensioned, triple-proofread, still cannot resist smuggling a naked woman and a cheeky marmot into the official topography. And the admisntration? They wait until the perpetrator has safely retired on full index-linked benefits, then solemnly announce the marmot will be "removed in the next revision cycle, pending environmental-impact assessment of the pixel."

This is what passes for rebellion inside the European regulatory state: a rodent drawn at 1:25 000 scale that offends precisely no one and will be erased by a civil servant who wasn’t even born when it was sketched. Truly the revolutionary spirit of our continent has been reduced to a change-request ticket with fourteen mandatory approvers and a carbon-copy to Bern.

I fill in another compliance form and weep for the age when men risked the stake for a badly drawn leviathan.

SegfaultSeagull · 15 days ago
In case you didn’t recognize this as an epic comment, you should know this is an epic comment.
endymion-light · 15 days ago
The looming sense of EU technocracy is ever present - I guess the kind of person to take offence at a cheeky marmot is probably going to be a perfect drone beurocrat. Although we do have to ask ourselves as a society, if we live in a world were a cartographer can't sneak in a little drawing, is it a world worth living?

I think what we need to do is fund an exhibition into the swiss alps to reconstute the terrain in the shape of a funny little marmot.

nephihaha · 15 days ago
To be fair, the Swiss are not in the EU, but they do have a curious relationship with it as a landlocked enclave. (Much like Andorra, San Marino, and the Vatican.)
lwkl · 14 days ago
Most of them were only in the lower scale maps and one of them is still there. Swisstopo even wrote an article [1] about them and gives some background and names the cartographers that added them. So our bureaucratic machine seems to have a sense of humor.

[1] https://www.swisstopo.admin.ch/en/hidden-images-20161221

babycheetahbite · 15 days ago
This was great - thank you, nicely done.
shmeeed · 15 days ago
>European regulatory state

*Switzerland

cpt_sobel · 15 days ago
Not EU but still a european state
mzajc · 16 days ago
I love this kind of tongue-in-cheek steganography. In a similar vein: Vermont Inmates Hide Image Of Pig On Police Decals (https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2012/02/03/146358114...)
Rendello · 16 days ago
> "'This is not as offensive as it would have been years ago. We can see the humor,' said Public Safety Commissioner Keith Flynn, a former state trooper and state prosecutor who was named commissioner a year ago. 'If the person had used some of that creativeness, he or she would not have ended up inside.'"

I read (and re-read, and re-read) the book You Can't Win on recommendation of a HN user. It's about a thief from the late 1800s-early 1900s, and the crimes he and his thief buddies did were pretty creative. A lot of crime is more brute-force than clever, but people can do some pretty interesting things if they want something and don't care if they lose everything.

benchly · 16 days ago
> You Can't Win

It's pretty entertaining!

And free to read for anyone interested: https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/69404

sandworm101 · 15 days ago
A hidden pig? I bet some younger cops covet the cars with this logo.

I was once at a military unit where someone hid a golf club in a crest for the door to the officers mess. It was spotted years later. The officers claimed to "never found out who did it", but they also never took it down.

wodenokoto · 9 days ago
I started reading this because of your comment. Maybe someday I’ll recommend it in a HN thread and some unsuspecting HN reader will come to read it too!
delichon · 16 days ago
I agree for the decal, but the map steganography is at the expense of accuracy. It's less than professional, like adding a small bug to a corner case of your code for a joke.
andy99 · 16 days ago
I only skimmed the pictures in the article but the ones I saw could have no plausible impact on navigation. They are buried within tiny details that are essentially artistic anyway, there is no impact on accuracy possible.
myself248 · 16 days ago
For something like a glacier, whose face is changing constantly anyway, who could even say if it didn't look like a marmot for a while? That whole part of the map could just say "glacier face" and be cross-hatched since it's unknowable at the time of publication, but that's no fun.
wampwampwhat · 15 days ago
I believe jokes inserted into code that dont impact user experience negatively are called easter eggs, not bugs
estebank · 16 days ago
Applications have had easter eggs for ages.

https://play.rust-lang.org/?version=stable&mode=debug&editio...

stavros · 15 days ago
If these details were harmful, don't you think it would take less than sixty years to discover them?
comrade1234 · 16 days ago
If you ever come to Switzerland download the swisstopo app. It is very detailed and useful for hiking but even in the city too, showing the locations of fountains, for example, rural and urban official and unofficial hiking trails, closed trails, slopes too steep to traverse, etc etc etc.

The Swiss topographical institute is a treasure.

kakacik · 15 days ago
This is where screenshots come from, official topo data are free. I use them all the time for hiking, ski touring etc. Good thing they cover also neighboring mountains a bit (to varying detail) so ie France or Italy can be enjoyed just with a single app.

Then you go further and realize how much worse free easy to find things are. There are variations of opentopomap but they lack the finesse of this.

Also available in various other layouts ie biking (veloland), canoeing or various winter sports (sadly no outright ski touring so I aproximate summer hiking paths, the best to use are still physical maps but then you need a hefty stash of various zooms at home, pricey too).

But none is perfect - opentopo map has some obscure artifacts, see ie here what I found by a chance - some hole too deep to be real, near Aletsch glacier or famous Eiger, a mountain slope in Bernese alps [1], while official Swiss topo looks like this without any such illogical artifact [2]

[1] https://opentopomap.org/#map=15/46.55901/8.07171 [2] https://schweizmobil.ch/en/map?season=summer&bgLayer=pk&laye...

jasonjmcghee · 16 days ago
The marmot, hiker, and fish- alright. I buy it. The others... Feels a bit like finding shapes in the clouds.

But I'm no cartographer so maybe these are more obvious to people that have the skill.

pinkmuffinere · 15 days ago
Ya, i was shocked at the “reclining woman” entry, I can’t see anything in that pattern.
jasonjmcghee · 15 days ago
I think it's supposed to be a headless woman... But yeah. Not convinced.
Bobaso · 15 days ago
I think I see it now (not really the best representation of a woman).

she is lying on her stomach, with her hands in front of her, and above the head. Top right: feet Bottom left, hands

a96 · 15 days ago
It's clearly a snake. There's even a forked tongue.
NaOH · 16 days ago
Previously:

Cartographers Have Been Hiding Covert Illustrations Inside Swiss Official Maps - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22490017 - Mar 2020 (22 comment)

Cartographers Have Been Hiding Covert Illustrations Inside Swiss Official Maps - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22461602 - Mar 2020 (1 comment)

Cartographers Have Been Hiding Covert Illustrations Inside Swiss Official Maps - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22407413 - Feb 2020 (1 comment)

sschueller · 16 days ago
The digital version over at https://map.geo.admin.ch/ has existed for many years but it is only a few years now that all Cantos have agreed to provide the data for free[1]. There is a lot of interesting data such as "Lärmbelastung" where you can lookup how loud car or rail traffic is at a location.

[1] https://www.geo.admin.ch/en/general-terms-of-use-fsdi

KronisLV · 16 days ago
The speed at which that map loads on a slightly old iPhone is really pleasant!

Aside from that, having those little Easter eggs in the maps is nice, at least more so than fake streets.

CalChris · 16 days ago
Reminds me of a message hidden in a NOAA weather forecast during a government shutdown

https://www.cnn.com/2013/10/04/politics/weather-service-cryp...

fotcorn · 16 days ago
Seems like the hiker at the bottom of the article was introduced in 1997 and removed only in 2017: https://s.geo.admin.ch/be66brq5oby9