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stillpointlab · 19 days ago
I asked it to create a story that described the modes of the major scale with a cartoon treble clef as the main character.

It created a 10 page story that stuck to the topic and was overall coherent. The main character changed color and style on every page, so no consistency there. The overall page layouts and animation style were reasonably consistent.

The metaphor it used was the character climbing a mountain and encountering other characters that represented each mode. Each supporting character was reasonably unique, although note motif was present on 3 or 4. The mountain also changed significantly and the character was frequently back at the bottom. However, in the end, he does reach the summit.

I can't say I am overly impressed but it does mostly do what they claim.

niemyjski · 19 days ago
I tried this to and had the same experience on half the books I tried to create. A lot of products I've tried have this issue and I think it will get better. I've been using and will stick to KidsAIStory as it allows me to use the same characters across the books. Also my child would be sad that they can't read their favorite series when google kills off another product.
neilv · 19 days ago
> "This is my kid’s drawing. He’s 7 years old. Write a creative storybook that brings his drawing to life.”

Is there something lost, when it's not the adult telling the child a bedtime improv story? (IME, kids love this.)

Is something else gained by the generated storybook?

serial_dev · 19 days ago
I just used ChatGPT (or Gemini, no idea) the other night to generate me a story.

I live abroad, so I don't have unlimited access to books in my native language and all the websites were crappy sites with dozens of ads on it, made it unusable.

I was fed up with searching, so I went to ChatGPT, told it to generate me a story in my native tongue about a boy named $MySonsName and his partner $FavoriteAnimalOfTheDay, who is doing $WhateverMySonDidThatDay. It was a good story, used phrases commonly used in children's books in my language, and all.

I think the aspect of being with my son, hugging him while reading something before going to sleep is much more important than who came up with the story. And as parents, after a day of full time work and constantly helping at the household, sleep deprivation, my stories would be two sentences before I run out of ideas.

geoduck14 · 19 days ago
I'm curious about how the LLMs handle non English languages. Is it good? Does it work well with hard/advanced content?

If you don't mind me asking, what languages do you speak? Which do you use when interacting with LLMs?

pamelafox · 19 days ago
I think it'd be amazing if I had the energy to make up improv bedtime stories every night. (We have a "King Dragon" improv series happening lately, which involves a lot of farts)

BUT, I don't always have that energy, and I already spend hours a day reading stories to my kids, so I am okay with them spending some fraction of time hearing stories from robots/screens/etc. (Lately, it's "Hey Google, tell a story" if mommy is too busy to read)

I hope we never stop paying amazing children's book illustrators though! I have so many books where I marvel at each page and the ingenuity of the illustrative style.

pamelafox · 19 days ago
Lol, I just tried to get it to draw the story about King Dragon farting, but it could not come up with a picture of a dragon farting - it turned it into fire coming from its mouth instead! It's too far outside its training data.

Link: https://g.co/gemini/share/188609ce3e1f

tenacious_tuna · 19 days ago
> I think it'd be amazing if I had the energy to make up improv bedtime stories every night [...] (Lately, it's "Hey Google, tell a story" if mommy is too busy to read)

This feels like the crux of my issues with AI. We're passing the human side of life to machines to do for us; music, art, storytelling with our kids. So often I hear that these are the things that people want to spend their time on, but AI has come to "free" us from "not having energy" to do those things, so we can instead continue to spend our energy toiling away, safe in the knowledge that our children will still get a bedtime story (albeit from a machine and not from a loving parent).

I get it, I know parents have no energy on top of everything else they're doing, this just feels so much like when I walk into a restaurant to a family with their kids, but the kids are all on tablets with headphones.

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ants_everywhere · 19 days ago
> Is something else gained by the generated storybook?

Yeah, kids love creating stuff

boothby · 19 days ago
When I've seen parents amuse kids with AI slop, the kids ask for more slop. When I've seen parents amuse kids with improv, the kids participate. Kids love both, and like nutrition... kids love sugar.
HKH2 · 19 days ago
> Is there something lost, when it's not the adult telling the child a bedtime improv story? (IME, kids love this.)

Kids use their imagination because they're encouraged to do so. It's somewhat of a challenge to find the cusp between what is plain and what is incomprehensible (think of the ZPD but for creativity).

arrosenberg · 19 days ago
> Is something else gained by the generated storybook?

The opportunity for low-effort, low-talent grifters to make a buck on Amazon?

bionhoward · 19 days ago
gemini app is really funny because they ship ridiculously complicated features like this before fixing the basic ability to have a chat history with apps activity turned off

Imagine the meetings where they decide to add personal illustrated storybooks before fixing chat histories

XenophileJKO · 19 days ago
Nobody gets promoted for fixing bugs. That is the sad state of big tech.

My theory is this misalignment of incentives is probably at the heart of most of our quality rot in software. Product managers are incentivized to create new features that boost the daily active users, while generally blind to the death by a thousand cuts caused by all the quality issues.

fc417fc802 · 19 days ago
It's the exact same issue that science has. Reproducing past work won't get you funding so no one bothers unless there's no alternative. Negative results won't get you funding so no one publishes them which means people inevitably repeat the same failed experiments.

It seems like large institutions almost inevitably accumulate misaligned incentives along with an inertia that makes them almost impossible to correct.

quacked · 19 days ago
If it were possible to turn off reports back to the manufacturer of what features were used and how often they were used on a grand scale, we'd enter into a golden age of software. I hate using technology now, with every button click reporting that it was clicked and features being sorted by "most used" instead of into logical placements relative to one another.
sorokod · 19 days ago
Exploration over exploitation.

I don't see this as a misalignment, it is a choice by the company, to the extent companies as a whole make choices. The incentives are the manifestations of those choices.

rmonvfer · 19 days ago
I think that’s on purpose (the chat history thing), because they actually keep the data (I’m the admin in a Workspace and even though we have Apps Activity turned off, everything still gets logged for compliance and I cannot disable it)

But yeah, it’s Google after all

Workaccount2 · 19 days ago
Few companies are more gifted than Google at having an incoherent product approach.
scarface_74 · 19 days ago
I like to say that they have the attention span of a crack addled flea.

But isn’t because of the promo culture? My n=1 of BigTech experience is that promos are based on “impact” and it’s a lot harder to show impact maintaining and improving existing features.

That might explain why there are over a dozen different ways to run a Docker container at AWS.

https://www.lastweekinaws.com/blog/the-17-ways-to-run-contai...

qwertox · 19 days ago
Just thinking that this is the company that had UIs like Google Reader and still have UIs like Gmail, yet Gemini has the most retarded UX ever.
baxtr · 19 days ago
Yeah product management at Google is a complete mess.
PunchTornado · 19 days ago
do you really think this is a bug? not on purpose?
addy34 · 19 days ago
>Try it today in the Gemini app. Available globally on desktop and mobile

Not quite. Gemini isn't available in Hong Kong. Unfortunately instead of telling Pixel users that, they updated their phones to use Gemini instead of the functional assistant, and then whenever the assistant is accessed, it just spins forever with a "just a moment" prompt.

It's not even clear why it's disabled, since it works just fine if you pay them for workspace subscription.

nosioptar · 19 days ago
According to Gemini, there us no Gemini desktop app...
cacarr · 17 days ago
They mean the web app.
arnaudsm · 19 days ago
Why are so many AI demos about automating parenting?

Just spend more time with your kids, they want connection!

missingdays · 19 days ago
"If only I could spend less time with my kids and instead more time on implementing a new feature until the end of the month" - an ideal employee through the eyes of the employer
IncreasePosts · 19 days ago
Likewise, if you rent a book from the library, you're outsourcing your parenting to some random author.

Isn't the point of this you have a customized book in like 5 minutes, and you can spend time sharing it with your child? Presumably you aren't just throwing the book at them and telling them to read it. If you spent hours drawing a book, would that mean you can spend more time with your kids?

dmonitor · 19 days ago
Kids have low standards, so you can sell low quality content if you slap a "for kids" label on it
gherkinnn · 19 days ago
People like to solve their own problems.
insane_dreamer · 19 days ago
It would be nice if Google could make Gemini in Slides and Sheets more than completely useless. Then we can talk about illustrated storybooks.
slongfield · 19 days ago
I asked it to create the kind of storybook my toddler would have asked for ("create a storybook about a music truck and an ice cream truck and a mailman and a carwash", inspired by his request for a story last night), and the results were certainly... interesting.

Obviously Gemini doesn't know that "music truck" is another name for "ice cream truck", but more concerningly, the illustrations it made for the trucks were this kind of eldritch amalgamation of Cars-movie style cars and people driving cars. The story was just OK, I don't think it would have kept my toddler's attention for the whole ten pages. Plus, the mailman is barely involved.

hopelite · 19 days ago
Not to sound hyperbolic and this is really just the beginning of significant AI, but will there be anything left for humans to do or create when all this is done?
disillusioned · 19 days ago
Will there be humans left when all this is done?