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teddyh · 3 months ago
“But Orcs and Trolls spoke as they would, without love of words or things; and their language was actually more degraded and filthy than I have shown it. I do not suppose that any will wish for a closer rendering, though models are easy to find. Much the same sort of talk can still be heard among the orc-minded; dreary and repetitive with hatred and contempt, too long removed from good to retain even verbal vigour, save in the ears of those to whom only the squalid sounds strong.”

— J.R.R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings, Appendix F, Part II, On Translation

mousethatroared · 3 months ago
Tails are what get you though.

I'd probably smash a robot that swore at me or my family.

"Tell your c---t daughter to get off the street"

Will probably result in me looking for a heavy stone.

Swear words are literally fighting words whilst a robot cannot, legally, be assaulted. I'll take destruction of property to defend my daughter's honor to a jury of normies.

delichon · 3 months ago
You don't want me on that jury. But if you pick up a heavy civil suit instead of a stone, you do.
mousethatroared · 3 months ago
Civil suit for what?

It needs to get to a jury and for that the prosecutor needs to think he'll win.

I doubt most prosecutors will stake their conviction ratio for a very sympathetic defendant.

(Except in San Fran and DC. There ill take whatever deal Im offered)

Swizec · 3 months ago
I'd prefer swearing over a robot who says "Per my last email, ..."

But let's be honest: The thing we're both afraid of is a robot who can get impatient and emotional.

mousethatroared · 3 months ago
They've already programmed impatience to the chat bots in federal government offices. Get testy and they'll hang up on you. However, they can't get emotional, they lack soul.

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sim7c00 · 3 months ago
interesting paper / idea. i like the idea of a robot or ai who uses profanity like a regular person (if thats ur thing, guess it depends on ur context). i know people who instruct their ai assistants to be rude, mean or profane because they listen better to that. like asking it to tell you to RTFM if you ask a question thats trivially answered (compared to some further context you specify , or not).

i suppose everyone learns to listen better to certain personas through their lifes experiences, so its good to be able to tune it towards personal preferences and not but overly protective or conservative limits or restrictions. (obviously thats a snake pit so i do totally understand tight restrictions)

mrandish · 3 months ago
The default obsequious, yuppie buddy chatbot personas of today make me hate them. Douglas Adams in Hitchhiker's Guide perfectly captured the infuriating annoyance of machines programmed to act like overly polite friends when he had the automatic doors always tell you how delighted they were to open for you.

It's a machine, dammit. One of its (potential) advantages vs hiring a human is not having extraneous transactional exchanges. If my personal AI assistant had to have a persona, I'd rather it sound and talk like Joe Pesci from Goodfellas.

stavros · 3 months ago
If you think of LLMs as machines, you will be surprised a lot more than if you think of them as humans, so the latter is the better abstraction.
jcims · 3 months ago
I'm tinkering with the 'indifferent god' persona and it's been very refreshing.
rolph · 3 months ago
the actual title seems to be unacceptable, however the obvious profanity version is.

[pseudo]actual title :

"Oh F**k! How Do People Feel about Robots that Leverage Profanity?"

even this breaks, very interesting

zfnmxt · 3 months ago
Good; censoring profanity (especially self-censoring) is for cowards. Be brave and dish out your fucks liberally in your papers!
pvg · 3 months ago
kingforaday · 3 months ago
So does Jared Dunn from Silicon Valley.
Yizahi · 3 months ago
Robots today can't "leverage profanity". Robots today can generate words either excluding profanity via some pre-made dictionary or not excluding them. Since both results are simply rehash of the human created data, of course it is possible to program robots to copy profanity too.

It really says nothing about the robot, because it is a robot; but a characteristic of a human who programmed it.

trebligdivad · 3 months ago
Swearing is very location dependent, as a Brit, and a northern one at that, peppering a few swear words in may not be that unusual. This can, erm how shall we put it, 'surprise' some others.
vasusen · 3 months ago
Grok's unhinged mode is the closest I have seen a bot that leverages profanity. I find it quite entertaining to use occasionally like watching a South Park episode.
Molitor5901 · 3 months ago
My first question would be: Why? As in: Why do we even need or want to program robots to use profanity?
beefnugs · 3 months ago
Because the cutest little fluf ball who just squeeked she loves me then wobbles back and forth back to her charging station blurting out an oh fuck as she stubs her toe is hilarious and i deserve to have that in my life

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