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avar · 5 months ago
What a weird way to conclude an article, to suggest that an Antarctic bus will be remembered as coming from an era of "McMurdo’s persistent culture of sexual harassment".

Then when you click through that article you can read about, among other things, a case where "the AP generally does not identify those who say they have been sexually assaulted unless they publicly identify themselves".

But they have qualms about including the name of the supposed attacker, who you can find (not from the AP) was found unanimously not guilty by a jury[1], in a case that whatever anyone believes about it, had nothing whatsoever to do with sexual harassment or sexual assault.

The alleged victim had supposedly stolen the defendants nametag, because she was upset about not being invited to a party. When confronted she refused to give it back, and the defendant forcibly retrieved it from her.

Is there a name for this fever dream style of writing, that even if you follow up on all the loose ends dropped throughout, find that some of them evaporate under scrutiny?

1. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stephen-tyler-bieneman-not-guil...

rafram · 5 months ago
The NSF itself said that sexual harassment is a problem at the base. They surveyed women there and 59 percent said they had been harassed. There have been a few named individuals accused of harassment there and a few victims who’ve come forward without asking for anonymity, but the point is that it’s so pervasive that there’s almost no point in trying to find individual perpetrators. Over half of all women at McMurdo are harassed!

https://www.npr.org/2023/11/03/1210418182/antarctica-sexual-...

redeux · 5 months ago
Terribly, 59% is actually lower than the rate of sexual harassment for women in the USA, which is around 77% according to the National Sexual Violence Resource Center.

https://www.nsvrc.org/resource/facts-behind-metoo-movement-n...

avar · 5 months ago

    > The NSF itself said that sexual harassment
    > is a problem at the base.
I'm not claiming otherwise, I was commenting on how bizarre it is to work this into an article about a transport bus in Antarctica.

    > They surveyed women there and 59 percent
    > said they had been harassed.
I don't think they did. Did you read the report?

The survey[1] had a 24% response rate, so that 59% number is extrapolated from that, it's actually just over 14%.

The report certainly contains some deeply troubling anecdotes, but (no surprise) there's a wide chasm between what it claims, and how it's been reported on.

But don't take my word for it, read what they have to say on page 28:

    "[...]it is important to note that the survey
    and focus group questions were not
    designed to elicit information regarding
    the prevalence or incidence of sexual
    assault within USAP. This remains an effort
    for the future. Instead, the qualitative
    and quantitative data elicited extensive
    information regarding individuals’
    experiences and perceptions. Team LDSS
    did not independently investigate or
    otherwise seek to verify the accuracy
    of individuals’ reporting."
That 59% claim comes from a footnote on page 33 of the report. 33%/47% of men/women said "sexual assault" was a problem in the USAP, and 48%/72% of men/women said the same of "sexual assault".

The 59% is then women respondents who had a "negative experience" with either assault or harassment.

I don't believe that means, as you claim, that "they had been harassed". Earlier on page 30 they say:

    Approximately 40% of all focus group
    participants discussed a personal
    negative experience with sexual assault
    or sexual harassment
Neither of those percentages in footnotes appear to be supported by accompanying source data. But since they go out of their way to distinguish between a "negative experience" and "personal negative experience", the 59% appears to refer to some broader category than personal experience with harassment or assault.

1. https://www.nsf.gov/geo/opp/documents/USAP%20SAHPR%20Report....

bombcar · 5 months ago
It's somehow related to self-referential news (where most "news" articles aren't reporting that a thing happened, but that another news agency reported that it happened) - it's almost "wikification", where what matters is the link and someone else having said it, original research is forbidden.

Of course, this problem has existed forever - rumor vs fact, the oft-misattributed to Twain "a lie can travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on".

s1artibartfast · 5 months ago
Thats not how I read the closing and description of the prior era. I read it as one that was more human, before being stamped out and sterilized due to the PR challenges is posed.

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jsight · 5 months ago
> Is there a name for this fever dream style of writing, that even if you follow up on all the loose ends dropped throughout, find that some of them evaporate under scrutiny?

It is called journalism.

teddyh · 5 months ago
> Is there a name for this fever dream style of writing, that even if you follow up on all the loose ends dropped throughout, find that some of them evaporate under scrutiny?

Journalism.

shadowtree · 5 months ago
You too can ride in such a vehicle - just visit the Columbia Icefield in Banff, Canada.

https://www.banffjaspercollection.com/attractions/columbia-i...

They drive out tourists on to the ice (as long as it is still there, couple decades left).

I did it, very cool.

nxpnsv · 5 months ago
I was driven in this from the ice runway to McMurdo station in 2001. It was very loud and slow and bouncy. I loved it.
gregoriol · 5 months ago
What is it replaced by?
joshvm · 5 months ago
In the summer, there are a small fleet of vehicles called "Deltas": https://photolibrary.usap.gov/PhotoDetails.aspx?filename=del... and the Kress.

From the article (though it doesn't say these still exist):

> But, she says, “Ivan could just make it through anything. I mean, he just floated across when the roads went bad,” as opposed to the Deltas and the 65-passenger Kress trailer, which often got bogged down in slushy snow and transitional terrain, and led to passengers being stranded out on the ice.

DVs (the Antarctic/naval term for VIPs) usually travel in minivans with oversize or tracked wheels. Those are also used to get smaller groups shuttled between places.

sleepytimetea · 5 months ago
AI /s
cozzyd · 5 months ago
Sad I won't get to ride Ivan when I (hopefully) go back to the ice this fall. I've ridden Ivan both previous times I flew to McMurdo from CHC, though the second time it's because the Kress got stuck in soft snow lol
biofox · 5 months ago
It has been a dream of mine to visit one of the research stations in Antarctica since I was a child. Unfortunately, my professional career has not yet provided me the opportunity :(
jbm · 5 months ago
Off topic but this is much more of a common sentiment than I had thought. There was an anime series about this - 宇宙よりも遠い場所 — literally about high schoolers who wanted to go to the antarctic.

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