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StillBored · a year ago
This was known about HDDVDs a few years back too. I pulled my Harry Potter collection out for my kids and their friends to watch and evntually concluded that every single WB disk was bad, even some that weren't even opened. It was unique to WB, other companies disks continued to mostly work.

Some people online at the time mentioned WB replaced a few of their disks with bluray's but I never managed to get WB to respond to my inquiries.

I ended up flying the jolly roger, I mean I own a legal copy, so its just format shifting...

cyanydeez · a year ago
Yeah, it would seem if they're not responsible for providing a disk that as a documented and known longevity, there's really nothing you're buying but a license to view the material and that's unrevokable.
mcphage · a year ago
Ah, I bet this is what happened with my boxed set of extended edition Lord of the Rings trilogy. I bought it years ago, finally opened it a few months back to show my kids—only to find that several of the disks failed half-way through. That was a really frustrating experience.
mmmlinux · a year ago
Halfway through sounds like the second layer went bad.
dunham · a year ago
It's been a couple of decades, but I believe that was the one that had an issue at time of purchase (which they replaced). The replacement worked about five years ago when we last watched it.
MobileVet · a year ago
Beyond personal images and documents of important, this was the second reason for establishing a home NAS with 3,2,1 backup [1]. Physical media fails, so you better have a plan for dealing with that if you care to maintain access.

[1](https://www.backblaze.com/blog/the-3-2-1-backup-strategy/)

shmerl · a year ago
Hard drives and DRM-free videos are a thing.
kulahan · a year ago
So is video streaming, which is just as unrelated to the topic at hand.
shmerl · a year ago
Nope, not comparable. Streaming isn't a replacement for stored DVDs. Hard drives are.
CamelCaseName · a year ago
I mean, it's been almost two decades.

At some point, things just don't work anymore, even if two decades is significantly less time than other DVDs.

mingus88 · a year ago
https://superuser.com/questions/251369/what-is-the-lifespan-...

When your media is advertised to last for 100 years, it is reasonable to want a replacement when it lasts less than a quarter of that time

hombre_fatal · a year ago
I don't think it's obviously reasonable unless you also get (or pay for) a 100 year manufacturer's warranty.

Yet the comments here talk like we have norms that don't exist. The actual norms we have are that you're SOL if your product breaks after the warranty, even due to a defect, and even for things that cost 1000x the price of a DVD.

karaterobot · a year ago
And that's what WB is offering, isn't it? A replacement. The question is whether you should expect to own and use something for almost 20 years, then get a refund. It'd be nice if they provided one, but I wouldn't say it's obvious to me that they must.

When no replacement discs are available, that's a more interesting edge case where they should feel obligated to do something to make it right in some other way, and I'd say a refund should be on the table.

skyyler · a year ago
I have CDs from the 80s that still work.

Heck, I have DiscoVision discs from the 70s that still work.

DVDs from 2006 should definitely still work.

6SixTy · a year ago
Laserdiscs/DiscoVision are analog, they can technically still work but their image quality could be heavily degraded.

Also, storage conditions can deeply affect how well a medium lasts but that's no excuse for defective discs.

m463 · a year ago
One thing I've noticed with older era CDs is that they were heavy and frequently not balanced to play at 48x
joezydeco · a year ago
RTA. They're defective.
throwaway48476 · a year ago
It's an order of magnitude less due to a manufacturing error in one factory.
nerdponx · a year ago
Except for the fact that they are (and were at the time) expected to still work.

It would be like if you had a known batch of badly-bound books that fell apart prematurely even under good storage conditions.

TylerE · a year ago
Why would anyone expect refunds for a product bought 20 years ago?
josephcsible · a year ago
I wouldn't expect refunds for a product, but I would for a perpetual license to a copyrighted work that I couldn't access anymore. They can't have it both ways.
cogman10 · a year ago
If a book falls apart are you owed a replacement by the publisher?

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timewizard · a year ago
Why would any company expect their copyrights to last for life of the creator plus 70 years?

If I can't pirate it, then I expect it to be replaced, this is the system they demanded.

TylerE · a year ago
That doesn't logically follow. You bought a disc, not lifetime access rights.
nosioptar · a year ago
I wouldn't for a DVD.

I would for my cello if a repair or replacement wasn't doable because it came with a lifetime warranty against defects.

huang_chung · a year ago
Costco abusers.
morley · a year ago
I don't know why you've been downvoted so much. I'd expect a company to issue replacements, not refunds, when they're not the end retailer.