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simonsarris · a year ago
good for them but

> One of the first questions people ask when we say we are doing a spring batch is what letter we will use to refer to it since “S” is already taken for the summer batch. We considered something like “Sp” or “P” but one founder made the suggestion of using “X” since it's a common variable name in programming and thus makes sense since the name “Y Combinator” itself is a programming term.

This chain of reasoning seems totally disconnected? "While trying to come up with a single letter to denote spring, since S was taken, we decided on... a common variable name instead" ??? what happened to denoting spring in there? Am I missing some clever reference? Is spring in particular the season for common variables?

The spring constant (in physics) is denoted by the letter "k", why not use that? I know its not programming, but at least it denotes spring.

throw-the-towel · a year ago
Notation is ultimately arbitrary, it's just what everyone has agreed on.

(As a fun fact, Spanish has decided to use X for Wednesday because both Wednesday and Tuesday start with the same letter, M: https://www.20minutos.es/cultura/blogs/yaestaellistoquetodol...)

0_____0 · a year ago
I learned a while back that Miercoles is a minced oath in Spanish. As in, you start to say the other thing that starts with Mier--, make eye contact with a child, and say the other thing.
simonsarris · a year ago
I think you may need to review what that word means in case you have an incorrect belief about its definition. Almost all notation ever created has a reason or a system, I have no idea why one would think its ultimately arbitrary (having no reason or system).

Consensus is not arbitrary either, that's a strong reason, a lack of arbitrary-ness. Even the second definition of arbitrary, something done unilaterally, is contra-consensus.

didgeoridoo · a year ago
Also the word for “of or pertaining to spring” is “vernal”, so… V? Obscure and a bit antiquated, but also technically correct (the best kind).
0_____0 · a year ago
El verano is Spanish for summer. Primavera for spring. But I agree it's all arbitrary. Could just do the boring thing and say 2025Q[1-4]
selimthegrim · a year ago
Vernal equinox is a pretty well-known expression
vasco · a year ago
Nobody knows what it means but it's provocative, gets the people going.
haunter · a year ago
G would have made more sense

In MTG the 5 colors are white, blue, black, red, and green. WUBRG. B is already taken by black (bla > blu) so blue became U. Hence in my head logic spring should have been G (technically sp > su but no point to change summer’s S after decades)

Onavo · a year ago
Maybe the "founder" is the Twitter boss

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bloopernova · a year ago
On reddit recently I read that X has the ASCII decimal 88.

We live in a bizarre yet tumultuous time.

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itishappy · a year ago
60+ crazy years of ASCII.
didgeoridoo · a year ago
But it… doesn’t?
eddd-ddde · a year ago
In good spirit of programming, nothing better than a terrible non-descriptive one character variable name.
fogpudding · a year ago
I think SP would have been the best. The thing about W25 or S25 is that you can guess what W or S means without being told. Can you imagine trying to explain this to someone? There's nothing about it that makes sense. There's no kernel of intuition to chew on. You'd finish explaining and the other person still wouldn't get it.

"What batch were you?"

"X25"

"What does X stand for?"

"Oh yeah haha, its a clever programming reference, it actually means spring, but S was taken by summer, so they used X instead because its a common variable name."

conductr · a year ago
Most likely by the time you are asked “what batch were you?” Anyone that would be asking that question is going to be familiar with the naming convention whatever it is
toast0 · a year ago
W25 is the west batch, SF. S25 is the south batch, uh Austin? Sao Paulo?
edouard-harris · a year ago
X also comes right after W, just as the Spring batch will come right after the Winter batch.

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enos_feedler · a year ago
I would just take the opportunity to rename all batched 1,2,3,4 and call the batches yc25 etc to denote all batches in 2025 etc. who cares what season you are in at this point. But this is just me.
xiphias2 · a year ago
Z would have made more sense as a pair of the Y combinator (and the next letter).

X is jut plain boring because there's nothing theoritical behind it.

bloopernova · a year ago
Z has the unfortunate association with the russian invasion of Ukraine.
tptacek · a year ago
V25, the Vernal YC 2025 batch!
snowmaker · a year ago
That's clever, we didn't think of that.
asadm · a year ago
you can still rename it right?
pvg · a year ago
X.25 celebrates the protocol in this decade, the connector will be celebrated in 10 years with V.35
miletus · a year ago
We’re hosting a meetup in SF for founders applying to the first-ever spring batch

Come connect with other ambitious founders and gain insights from the YC alumni

Date: Feb 6

Time: 6:30 PM

RSVP here: https://lu.ma/lwdw64cn

See you there!

edoceo · a year ago
What about YC25q1, YC25q2, YC25q3 and YC25q4?
0_____0 · a year ago
Hey quit it with that universally understood, sensible solution. We're here to disrupt!
toast0 · a year ago
Well, (based on zero information) YC probably is on the same fiscal year as California, so spring would be 24q4 ;p
mkl · a year ago
Seems sensible. The northen-hemisphere naming means I (and many others) need to pause and translate S and W every time.

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andrewstuart · a year ago
Months would be easier to follow than seasons for those of us on the upside down world.

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65 · a year ago
They should do batches by pure three digit numbers. E.g.

251 for winter 252 for spring 253 for summer 254 for fall

vednig · a year ago
Our startup(from India) applied twice last two batches, and were rejected but now we're far beyond MVP stage, we've had LOI and traction from users, it seems that we do not require additional funding should we still apply for X25 ?
dang · a year ago
I would if I were you. Most startups that get funded by YC have applied more than once, so this is normal.

The main thing is to be able to demonstrate progress since the previous application, which it sounds like you can. Good luck!