Edit: since https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41911099 was the first submission of the article, I'm going to merge the comments thither and re-up that one. But only the on topic comments. There is way too much dross in this thread—perhaps a fresh start will make for a healthier discussion.
(Sorry, l1n — not your fault at all, and I'm sorry we don't have karma sharing implemented yet.)
Shigellosis is god awful. I've had it three times, from sexual contact. Let's just say I won't do anything more than a peck on the cheek unless I've witnessed the person shower first as many people's hygiene standards are disgusting
This is possibly way too personal, and obviously I get it if you don't reply. But I'm curious -- was the sexual contact of a sort that would obviously carry this risk? Or a sort where you had to get very unlucky, or something in between?
This article hit different for me.. It had a weird font so at the beginning I thought it said...
"I spent the days just prior to my 80th birthday sick with shigellosis"
Articles like this are a nice reminder of just how wonderful life is in America, and just how far civilization has to fall if shit REALLY hits the fan someday. If you need a reason to be grateful in spite of mundane crap like housing costs and white collar jobs, the developing world offers some lessons in humility and gratitude.
> Articles like this are a nice reminder of just how wonderful life is in America, and just how far civilization has to fall if shit REALLY hits the fan someday.
While I agree its cool to see progress. If I get sick in the US and need medical attention, just fly me back to Europe. Id rather not go bankrupt.
I’d go to somewhere like India that has medical tourism. Any procedure that you can wait long enough to fly to Europe will have a long waitlist there.
Besides I was completely blown up in the US on my motorcycle with fractures all over and in the ICU for days and I paid a grand total of $2k. I think it was pretty cool honestly.
There was some therapy afterwards that cost a little more but overall I’m back to normal except for a few thousand. Since I make hundreds of thousands more this feels like a good deal.
Sure you might not have the financial burden but actually getting attention is not as straightforward as I infer from your wording. Wait times in much of Europe are kind of ridiculous.
One isn’t better than the other. There are trade offs. Your preference appears to be financial.
I love and work in emergency medicine in the US. We still see Shigella on the Navajo Nation, where many of our patients do not have electricity or running water at their home.
Fallacy of relative privation. Also in a way, people in poorer countries have stronger families because they actually spend time together. Compared to Western family stereotypes where mom and dad ignore their kids all day while they commute and work their fancy jobs to keep up with housing costs.
I mean, the US has lots of areas where the water is contaminated with carcinogens and other toxins and pollutants. The oil pipeline spills alone are already a handful, and then there's mining slurry, and industry dumping their waste where they really shouldn't etc. etc.
Downvoted to hell for some reason even when I am not trying to be nasty. What I mean that the end of human civilisation is inevitable by natural law. I would argue that the number of possible ends that involve breakdown of civilisation and presence of the misery the cited post mentioned is much larger than the number of ends of a different nature (sudden end or some sort of transformation).
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Edit: since https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41911099 was the first submission of the article, I'm going to merge the comments thither and re-up that one. But only the on topic comments. There is way too much dross in this thread—perhaps a fresh start will make for a healthier discussion.
(Sorry, l1n — not your fault at all, and I'm sorry we don't have karma sharing implemented yet.)
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While I agree its cool to see progress. If I get sick in the US and need medical attention, just fly me back to Europe. Id rather not go bankrupt.
Besides I was completely blown up in the US on my motorcycle with fractures all over and in the ICU for days and I paid a grand total of $2k. I think it was pretty cool honestly.
There was some therapy afterwards that cost a little more but overall I’m back to normal except for a few thousand. Since I make hundreds of thousands more this feels like a good deal.
One isn’t better than the other. There are trade offs. Your preference appears to be financial.
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or the fecal-oral route
Which parts of America?
I mean, the US has lots of areas where the water is contaminated with carcinogens and other toxins and pollutants. The oil pipeline spills alone are already a handful, and then there's mining slurry, and industry dumping their waste where they really shouldn't etc. etc.
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You mean when it hits the fan
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