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Posted by u/samaralihussain a year ago
Show HN: Itineraries.io – I built a joint trip planner in between surgeriesitineraries.io...
Hey HN,

For the last several weeks, I have just been sleeping, eating, operating and developing itineraries.io. Rinse and repeat.

I work as a surgeon in the UK. My main other passions are travel and programming. Recently, when I haven't been stitching someone up, I've been working on my project.

Having always dreamed of exploring the world as a child, I struck a goldmine when I found a wife who shared the same love of adventure as me. We couldn't afford to travel much when we first met at university. Over the last couple of years, since both entering the workforce, we have been able to live out some of our dreams. It has been wonderful. We now have a little one coming along and I can't wait to adventure as a family.

I created itineraries.io because my wife and I usually rely on making Excel spreadsheets for our travels. These eventually become quite detailed. I thought a better user experience could be designed, and a community could grow from it centred around adventure.

Here are the main benefits I envision of using itineraires.io:

- Everything you need for your trip stored in one location (tickets, driving directions, travel documents, etc)

- Collaborative planning: plan your trip with your companions by sending a joining link via email

- Community: save your favourite itineraries made by others, clone them with a single click, and make them your own

I'd love to hear your thoughts and feedback :)

Samar

vzaliva · a year ago
I am a frequent traveller and stuck using TripIt. It has an antiquated UI and is not well-supported. That said, the killer feature they have is email parsing. Instead of filling the endless field of a form to enter my airline ticket or hotel reservation, I just forward their the confirmation email, and in most cases, they parse it. This is the feature you should consider adding.

Another comment I have is that the product description on the web page is sparse, so I was hesitant to sign up. Maybe there should be an "About" section?

A modern TripIt replacement is overdue and I will be glad to try alternatives.

voisin · a year ago
Wouldn’t ChatGPT and similar be a perfect use case for parsing those emails and outputting in whatever format you’d like?
pbhjpbhj · a year ago
Will ChatGPT input form data into websites? Your idea is good for "turn this ticket info into a .ics file" (I imagine) but might not work for "add this ticket info to this proprietary website's internal calendar".
pragma_x · a year ago
GPT? Probably not. But there are AI products out there that can be trained to do that kind of grunt work with text that has semi-regular features to it. Amazon Textract is one such tool.
Navaie · a year ago
You might want to give a shot to Stippl! It aims to simplify your travel (planning), and also has document forwarding. Doesn't yet do email parsing though.

Full disclosure: I'm one of the founders

vzaliva · a year ago
After registering it attepts to open https://stippl.io via external URL handler which gives me a popup in my Firefox.
vzaliva · a year ago
Looks good! I will try when you add email parsing feature :) It is a pain to input details manually but I like having all my information in once place when I travel: confirmation numbers, hotel addresses, phone numbers, etc.

On plus side, as someone suggested LLMs like ChatGPT should be a very good fit for email parsing and easy to integrate (e.g. ChatGPT API asking to output JSON).

DowagerDave · a year ago
I was just thinking this morning about email as the integration interchange, and how TripIt did the best job of this I've seen. It is really, really hard to do right but an awesome feature IMO. I wondered if this is because I'm old and like email though; my kids never use it.
ghaff · a year ago
Well, confirmations are essentially always emails. Your kids may not care about those but adults pretty much have to.

But yes I do generally like it even if a lot of chit chat, appointment reminders, and the like have migrated to messaging.

ghaff · a year ago
Yeah. There are things I don’t like about TripIt. It’s no use for planning and I wish it had the option of a calendar style output to make gaps and inconsistencies more obvious. The email feature that usually works is pretty killer though.
haliskerbas · a year ago
I love things like this. And it's impressive that you do surgery + travel + programming. I can hardly manage just the last one.

For launches like this, the blocker for me signing up is seeing an example of the UI. Productivity tools, especially ones for trip planning are so heavily design + vibes based that I'd need to see what it looks like before considering how it would be helpful for me. I think others might feel similar as well.

Congrats on the launch and good luck!

samaralihussain · a year ago
hey that's a really good point - thank you :) Still consider myself a bit of a newbie, so really grateful to hear tips such as yours. I'll get working on it!
orangewindies · a year ago
It's an interesting idea but why would I sign up and give you personal data without any idea of the site's features or UI?
xyst · a year ago
I found this annoying as well. I just give a junk first and last name and throwaway email.

Would be nice to make these optional. Just throw me into the canvas and if I want to add people then make email required.

samaralihussain · a year ago
Interesting point - I personally am fairly easy about signing up to cool new products that I like the sound of. Although it makes sense that some people might be hesitant to give details away so easily. Do you reckon featuring a video demo would help mitigate this?
zdragnar · a year ago
At minimum, I assume if I sign up you're going to start emailing me, and I haven't even seen enough to decide if I'm actually interested yet.

Worst case (often the case) those email addresses get collected and eventually sold off to some marketing spam list that just adds more junk to my inbox and adds a little bit more information to some marketing profile about me somewhere.

A video demo would definitely help demonstrate that at least there's a "there" there.

trevor-e · a year ago
Not OP but have the same frustration, and no a video would not be helpful. Let users maybe view the first N items of an itinerary before requiring an account to see the full thing. As-is I have no incentive to sign up for an account because everything interesting is account-walled.
reustle · a year ago
Letting the public trips be visible would make the most sense. I'll create an account when I'd like to make my own trip.
ibejoeb · a year ago
Same as the other commenters in that I don't know what we're dealing with because I didn't sign up, and I didn't sign up because I don't know what it does or if I need it.

Rather than rëengineer your site, consider just putting up a static walkthrough of key features, or a short video demo.

Cheers!

mda · a year ago
I also didn't login to the site. I wanted to see what it is about, but why do I need to sign in to see information?
below43 · a year ago
Same here. I was keen to see the functionality first. Encountering a sign-up form as the first step is an instant closing of the tab for me.
samaralihussain · a year ago
so i've now added a page that will route you to view the itinerary you clicked on from the main page without requiring you to sign up. Hopefully this helps. Sorry for the delay in getting this up and running - was working a 12 hour shift, so had to wait until after work
gavinsyancey · a year ago
You might want to pick a backup domain name -- it seems possible .io could disappear in the next several years: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41729526
eddyg · a year ago
Like others have mentioned, I want to play around with a tool a bit before signing up.

I’ve tried many “travel apps”, and we recently used Tripsy⁽¹⁾ for a two week holiday and the iOS widget showing the “current activity” and “next activity” of your itinerary (for easy access to PDF tickets, notes, etc.) was really great! You can even turn your phone sideways to show the name and address of your next stop in large print which is great for taxis.

It has sharing/collaboration, integrations for over 700 sites, and also syncs to your Calendar so you can see your itinerary there.

Very well done app that I thought was worth a mention. (It has a web UI as well.)

⁽¹⁾ https://tripsy.app/

kenrick95 · a year ago
This is really cool. Coincidentally I am currently in the process of building one myself (just for personal use), though mine has much less features than this one. I hope this I can take some inspiration from your site.

Some issues I faced after trying it out for few minutes:

- When creating itineraries, I filled in the country field, but upon pressing enter or the arrow button, it just disappeared?

- On the same text field, I'm on dark mode, but the color contrast is quite poor (can't read the placeholder text)

- When I'm on the per-day itinerary planning page, when entering the hh:mm field, it didn't move my focus to the next one (so if I want to enter 08:00, I have to enter "8" then <tab> then "8" then <tab> then "0" then <tab> then "0"

- After I entered the hh:mm and press the plus icon, I suppose we're supposed to enter the plans starting that time. So I enter some stuff to it, and upon pressing enter, it appears there. It's fine, but it feels like the UX would be better if the text box is autofocused again, so we can quickly enter several plans for that timing

- I'm confused with the "edit"/"editing" button, not sure what it does... but when the text goes to "editing", I can delete some items I guess?

Anyway that's all I have for now. Sorry for the long wall of text.

Cheers~

foobarbecue · a year ago
Since nobody has mentioned it yet, I've found https://roadtrippers.com is quite good.
ikari_pl · a year ago
wanderlog also promises to find optimal routes, and discovers trips from email confirmations
scoot · a year ago
You have a "How can we improve?" button, but nothing happens when I click send – perhaps that's one thing you can improve? :)

My unsent feedback was:

I clicked on an itinerary on the home page, was asked to sign up/in, signed in with Google, and was taken to https://itineraries.io/home instead of the itinerary I had clicked on.

It would be good to be able to explore itineraries without having to sign up/in to see what the site is about, but if you're determined to get people to sign in, at least take them to where they wanted to go afterwards.

Nitpick: The spinning globe is painfully obviously a flat image. It's also spinning in the wrong direction ;)

samaralihussain · a year ago
thank you for the feedback - much appreciated. I did in fact get your feedback that you submitted. I;ve fixed the UI so it reflects that your message was delivered. I've also changed it so that clicking on an itinerary will take you to view the itinerary without requiring login. Sorry it took a bit of time to get back to you - just got home from a 12 hour hospital shift and got working on it straight away!