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racingmars · a year ago
"Microsoft Notepad." "BMP image format."

Seemed like the definition of "programming language" was quite odd (given the title of the submission to HN is "Where are programming languages created?"), but then I noticed the actual title of the page is "Where does software innovation happen?" and is not restricted to programming languages.

varjag · a year ago
At the same time it misses Russia's Kotlin.
mseepgood · a year ago
While Kotlin is a Russian island the Kotlin programming language was created by JetBrains which is a Czech company founded by Russians with headquarters in Prague. You will find Kotlin on the map in the Prague circle.

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cherrybajan · a year ago
Way back in USSR days, there used to be this language called Nairi or something like that
vitus · a year ago
Seems weird to attribute Haskell to Microsoft. Simon Peyton Jones joined MSR Cambridge in '98 (about a decade after the name "Haskell" was chosen), Erik Meijer joined Microsoft in 2000, and nobody else linked from the Wikipedia page for Haskell has obvious affiliations with Microsoft.

As far as I can tell, Haskell was an academic collaboration mostly between Jones (UCL briefly, mostly University of Glasgow), Wadler (University of Edinburgh), and Hudak (Yale).

breck · a year ago
FredPret · a year ago
As with so many things, this is basically a map of GDP / area.

In this case there's another layer on top of that where # of programming languages scales faster after a certain wealth threshold.

For instance, the city of Toronto has a GDP equivalent to a couple of specific countries (and larger than most countries), but created more programming languages than the equivalent countries.

joshdavham · a year ago
It makes sense that most software innovation has so far happened in the USA, Europe and Japan, but I wonder what this map might look like by the end of the century...
aardvark179 · a year ago
I think there is likely also bias in the data (what was considered significant) and inaccuracies in locations (many things assigned to Google’s head office).
firesteelrain · a year ago
In the US at least, programming languages were either developed by large corporations (Sun Microsystems, Apple, Google, Bell Labs, IBM) or research institutions (MIT) or Government (Ada, COBOL).
fanf2 · a year ago
Ada was designed at Honeywell-Bull in France.
wiseowise · a year ago
> but I wonder what this map might look like by the end of the century...

Why would it suddenly change?

RandomThoughts3 · a year ago
Well for one, the world demography is deeply changing with population aging everywhere but a significant lag between countries which are already greying (Japan, Europe), countries which rely heavily on immigration to keep the median age stable (the USA) and countries which are just beginning to age but have large population (India, China, Brazil).
laurentlb · a year ago
In the CSV file, I see that the Google software is attributed to Mountain View, even when the actual teams were not in Mountain View.

(I found the visualization hard to use, at least on mobile, so I used the CSV file)

pentacent_hq · a year ago
Elixir is probably the most prominent language that originated in Brazil (at Plataformatec in São Paulo) but the data CSV lists an address in Texas.
ClawsOnPaws · a year ago
I would have thought that would be Lua, not Elixir?
orhmeh09 · a year ago
Ah, let's not forget Lua =)
EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK · a year ago
Everyone knows the best pl are created in Denmark.
Quothling · a year ago
As a Dane I'm curious which ones you're thinking of. The ones which are typically associated with Denmark are C++ and PHP and neither were developed in Denmark and I think it would be fair to call PHP more Canadian than Danish. Ruby on Rails is another but Ruby was developed by Matz.

I'm not sure BETA or FCL are really in the "Best" category. :p

bazoom42 · a year ago
C# was developed by a Dane, but it wasn’t developed in Denmark. The creator of PHP was born in Greenland, but again the language was developed elsewhere.
bazoom42 · a year ago
The languages created in Denmark does not seem particulary notable?

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flohofwoe · a year ago
Anders Hjelsberg and Bjarne Stroustrup are both Danish, who together account for what feels like 90% of all popular programming languages ;)
3836293648 · a year ago
And your most reasonable language is missing! (Futhark)
lokimedes · a year ago
It may be a bit shallow, but as a Dane, I take some pride in the number of languages created by my countrymen, considering our modest population.

*Many have migrated to the US on their way, but still…

kamikazeturtles · a year ago
Many Danes migrated to the UK a thousand years ago and now their descendants, who migrated to the US 200 hundred years ago, are also making great contributions in programming language theory. Lots to be proud of
dunham · a year ago
I'm working on a toy language (in the US), and I'm 1/8th Danish.
lokimedes · a year ago
You're in good company: Bjarne Stroustrup, Rasmus Lerdorf, Anders Hejlsberg, Peter Naur, Dunham...