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nerdix · a year ago
This is misleading. They are using the yearly cost for each streaming service but the NFL season is only about 5 months long including the playoffs. So you don't need to be subscribed for the whole year

And some of those streaming services are only getting one or two games. For instance, Netflix is only getting the Christmas games. They have Netflix listed as costing $84. If you only cared about the NFL games then you would only subscribe to Netflix for the month of December for $6.99. Peacock gets the Brazil game (which is tonight) and one playoff game in January so you'd only need two months of that. ESPN+ gets a game in week 7 so you'd only need one month of that.

Is it annoying to subscribe and cancel streaming services? Yes. But it wouldn't cost $2500 if you spend a few minutes cancelling each service.

ziddoap · a year ago
>But it wouldn't cost $2500 if you spend a few minutes cancelling each service.

Sure, not quite that much, you're right.

But it's more than a few minutes to figure out which games are on which services in which months and then schedule all of your sign-ups and cancellations.

More important than the dollar amount, at least in my opinion, is that it's absolutely stupid to have to do any of that.

singleshot_ · a year ago
Seems like I should be able to pay someone to do this.
fragmede · a year ago
There are a number of services that will go into your bills, find subscription services, and offer to cancel them for you.
jasonkester · a year ago
Living abroad, I used to pay about $150/year for NFL Gamepass, and it was really good. Every game from every season, with the commercials cut out so you could watch a game in about 2 hours. Visiting the US and watching a game on TV was suddenly really painful, with its extra hour (literally) of commercials interspersed.

Then, last season, the NFL sold their Gamepass service to DAZN, who immediately ruined it.

The replay games suddenly had commercials again. Not real commercials either, just 2 minutes of DAZN House Ads every few plays, when the US version would be showing truck commercials. Even a week later after they should have had time to edit them down.

And you couldn't find your team's game to watch anyway, because they killed the team pages. Now all you get is a Netflix-style horizontal scroll of DAZN's "Football" category, showing six games at a time and a little right arrow to page by one game at a time.

It was amazing how fast I went from a loyal customer on autopay for years to demanding a refund and just not watching football anymore.

hsod · a year ago
Well in the US we watch NFL games live, so there's really no way to cut out the commericals
HDThoreaun · a year ago
NFL plus has the condensed replays usually up same day. Live games definitely way to much ads, but redzone completely fixes that.
withinboredom · a year ago
This reminds me of someone showing how expensive apps actually are these days. What used to cost 40 bucks, one time, for the computer version now costs hundreds of dollars to buy all the 'packs' on the mobile version.
mcphage · a year ago
Mobile version of what?
withinboredom · a year ago
A lot of old/popular computer games were remade into a mobile version with micro-transactions.
dangus · a year ago
Extremely inaccurate and sloppy article.

FOX, CBS, NBC, ABC are all free over the air.

RedZone doesn’t count because it is not “a game.” You wouldn’t watch every single game and then watch RedZone because you are duplicating content.

I have no idea why they’re saying Netflix costs $84 when you’re only subscribing for one month to get the Christmas games.

Same deal with Peacock, Amazon Prime Video, ESPN+ you only need to subscribe during the season.

Not sure if you can count preseason as “season,” or maybe they should change the article title.

NFL season is 5 months. This is my math:

YouTubeTV/Sunday Ticket $419

Amazon Prime Video: $45

Peacock: $8

ESPN+: $55

Netflix: $7

Total: $534 plus tax, add $50 if you give a shit about the preseason (nobody does)

woldemariam · a year ago
you would only need ESPN+ for october. there is only one ESPN+ exclusive game. all other ESPN games you get on youtube tv. that would bring you total under $500

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cjrp · a year ago
It's about $20/month in the UK to watch all of the games (legally) via DAZN. So I guess that + a VPN isn't a bad option.
elashri · a year ago
Doesn't UK have a similar problem but with soccer (The real game you play mainly with foot) games?
dylan604 · a year ago
But NFL doesn't have all of the other games. It has the season for the league, and that's it. So there's no need to find your team's games in the international tournaments. Or the various providers for any of the national tourneys either. Also, there's only 16 games in the normal season, plus maybe a couple more for play offs. So you're paying a much higher rate for each individual game when you divide the cost per game for the subscription. The NFL is nothing but $$$ grab
merrywhether · a year ago
The name football comes from the fact that it was played _on_ foot by the commoners, as opposed to the equestrian sports played by the nobility.
bojangleslover · a year ago
It would be cheaper for me to order a brand new MacBook Air to my mother-in-law in the UK, and then run an exit node via Tailscale, to access DAZN.

She has fiber, I have fiber, would work like a charm.

drio · a year ago

  I use a similar setup with my brother who lives in Europe, but instead of a
  MacBook Air, I’m using a Raspberry Pi.

  The Pi runs Tailscale as an exit node, and whenever I want to catch a game or a
  show, I simply connect to that exit node from my computer and launch the DAZN
  web app. It’s not something I use all the time, but it’s a great option when I
  need access to a game that isn’t available on my local streaming services.

  While this setup works, it’s far from ideal. Having to go through the entire
  process is a bit cumbersome. It would be much more convenient if there were a
  way to directly access the video feed stream—maybe with a dedicated cable box
  that you can control remotely.

  I’ve also come across some dubious streaming sites that broadcast virtually
  every channel from multiple providers—literally thousands of channels. I’ve
  always been curious how they manage to pull that off.

fragmede · a year ago
An Apple TV would be a lot cheaper than a MacBook air, and be useful to her as well.
costanzaDynasty · a year ago
Fifteen minutes after every game a condensed version of the games is posted on the NFL's YouTube channel. Most sports do this now.

Don't pay a premium for a McDonalds French fry.

laweijfmvo · a year ago
I freakin' LOVED when the NHL started doing this. Longer than the old 2 minute highlights, but enough to catch up on games from a different time zone.
bobro · a year ago
Just after they release a movie, you can read the whole plot on wikipedia for free! Don’t pay to see a movie.
paulmd · a year ago
flippant tone aside, this is a thing that actually happened!

not just after they release, but they would definitely show "abridged" versions of movies on daytime TV, with a little bit trimmed off to open up some space for commercials etc

just another thing that netflix ruined

tantalor · a year ago
And you don't really miss anything important, you see all the best plays and scores.

Example from last night: https://youtu.be/IENArFXpQD8?si=YuhqkVZdmJMKPzvR&t=566

benwilber0 · a year ago
some people want to watch the game and not just the highlights 3 hours later
ossobuco · a year ago
Why watch the condensed version of the match at this point?

Just check what rank your team got at the end of the championship. Saves you time.

jbverschoor · a year ago
To be able to talk about the game
apwell23 · a year ago
uh.. whole point of watching is the thrill of unpredictability in real time.
singleshot_ · a year ago
No, the whole point of sports in general is to have something to talk about with clients. Getting to the nut without wasting your weekend is great.
Miner49er · a year ago
This is simply not true. You don't need Amazon Prime at all, those games are streamed on Twitch for free. You also only need some of these services for a month or two. Finally, you can get the network games for free with a TV antenna.
VWWHFSfQ · a year ago
Don't you still need prime to watch on twitch
Miner49er · a year ago
No, just need to be in the US. Unless they changed it? But I thought the whole reason they did it was because they were required to broadcast it for free in the teams that are playing's markets, and this was the easiest way for them to do that.
m-hodges · a year ago
FTA:

> The total cost for a football fan who doesn’t have cable to stream all 343 NFL games this season is about $1,700.

The average NFL game is about 3 hours. That's 1,029 hours of content across all games. 1700/1029 = $1.65/hr for the content. That's a lot less than renting a movie. Yes, I know there are ads happening, too.

Seems fine.

ossobuco · a year ago
No matter what abomination of greed we witness on this website, there's always some sucker who's going to justify it.
pkulak · a year ago
Someone is always around to point out that entertainment is not food or health care and you are free to choose which, and how much to consume. And that consuming all of it, all the time, however you like, for pennies, is not a human right.
NotACop182 · a year ago
No person is going to watch every game as some games play at the same time.

There should be a pay what you want to watch model that doesn't price higher then traditional plans.

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dangus · a year ago
I think it would make a little more sense if the games didn’t already have frequent commercial breaks and in-broadcast advertising.
vundercind · a year ago
They’d have to re-arrange how the sport works, I think. It’s a whole activity built for broadcast TV with commercial breaks.

If they cut the commercials you’d still have just as much time with nothing happening. An improvement, sure, but not great.

shlant · a year ago
> Yes, I know there are ads happening, too.

Isn't that the vast majority of the content? Or is it different for streaming?

downut · a year ago
"content". 1/3 of that is ads. You know what I'm not going to do? Pay for ads.