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etimberg · 2 years ago
Not surprising. I worked at NI for my first job out of university and developing software there was so painful
Ocerge · 2 years ago
Same, I left in 2014. I left after a couple of years to almost double my pay and not work on a Linux RT USB driver directly out of college for which I had no desire to be a SME, but in hindsight I think the coworkers I had there were smarter than anywhere else I've worked since (including Google). They paid absolutely nothing but seemed to have good culture, at least where I was at the time.
Rinzler89 · 2 years ago
>in hindsight I think the coworkers I had there were smarter than anywhere else I've worked since (including Google)

Why do you think that is?

a-dub · 2 years ago
ahh i see, now i understand why there's still no 6000 series usb driver for linux.

so annoying!

georgeburdell · 2 years ago
Any insight into why NI binaries were so large and interconnected relative to competitors such as Keysight?
CoastalCoder · 2 years ago
Sounds interesting. Can you elaborate?
etimberg · 2 years ago
Some highlights that I remember include:

* One project where the CI took something like 48 hours

* Trying to apply waterfall hardware engineering processes to software development

* Mostly hiring devs fresh from university so there was a ton of group think due to a lack of new ideas

* Low salaries so most of the devs left once they got promoted beyond a junior level

Kirby64 · 2 years ago
NI has a nickname in the industry:

NI = No Income. Keep in mind, they're also HQ'd in Austin, TX, which is essentially the most expensive city in Texas.

osigurdson · 2 years ago
I'm a little surprised that a > 1 year article about an acquisition in a somewhat niche industry is front page Hacker News.
neltnerb · 2 years ago
I suppose it's fair to describe both as niche, even though basically every facility that requires high reliability controls (talking chemicals, energy, medical, etc) uses Emerson. They're enormous, but they do focus on one kind of thing.

It happens to also be what NI does (did) except NI did it in a way that was more accessible to education and hobbyists. Still expensive, but with things like educational toolkits using LabView as a base they have products that address the market for lower cost, lower reliability, but more flexible prototyping tools that I've never seen Emerson focus on at all.

But yeah, I knew about this a year ago because it's the kind of thing that matters a lot for my work. And since then I've known to not build any new prototypes that use NI software and instead move towards anything else...

LeifCarrotson · 2 years ago
> And since then I've known to not build any new software that uses NI software[sic] and instead move towards anything else...

Do you mean "not to build any new software that uses NI hardware", or are you specifically averse to Emerson's software dev practices even though you trust them to produce good hardware?

On that note, who is your new preferred vendor for DAQ hardware? Some of the stuff that NI allowed you to build with cRIO or PC-based multifunction DAQ hardware like their PCIe-6321 etc. was pretty unique. There's not a lot of off-the-shelf gear for on the order of $1000 that can do 100 kHz digital/analog signal acquisition.

I like Delta Tau PMAC gear for electronic servo control (though their recent acquisition by Omron seems to be having a similar impact as I expect Emerson is having at NI) and Delta Motion for hydraulics (not yet bought out by anyone, they seem to successfully transition to employee-owned after Natchwey retired last year, but time will tell)... but neither is a true multifunction DAQ system like NI.

kragen · 2 years ago
i'm not sure electronic test equipment is really that niche here
guerrilla · 2 years ago
They seem pretty big, but maybe people are confusing them with to old famous National Semiconductor for some reason (sold to TI in 2011.)
bobmcnamara · 2 years ago
It's becoming clear it's the end of a language.
ChuckMcM · 2 years ago
I must have missed this when it happened last year (April apparently). Perhaps not surprisingly I associate the name "Emerson" with comically large integrated stereos (boom boxes). But apparently they are building up a test and measurement group.
quickthrowman · 2 years ago
Emerson Electric (in TFA) does not make consumer electronics, that’s another company called Emerson Radio Corporation.
ChuckMcM · 2 years ago
I am aware, and it is unfortunate for Emerson Electric in terms of branding things in the electronics space. I don't doubt they will retain the National Instruments and/or Digilent brands for that reason.

It will make me chuckle every time I see that Digilent banner "An Emerson company."

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bad_username · 2 years ago
I spent a minute in a state of mild shock, thinking it's Native Instruments that got acquired...
svaha1728 · 2 years ago
They were bought by a private equity company in 2021. Would love to know more about the Berlin programming scene in the 90s. The initial minds behind Generator/Reaktor were incredibly inspiring.
RIMR · 2 years ago
That would be a ridiculous acquisition. The shock was justified.
sixthDot · 2 years ago
well, remember that Sonic Foundry was acquired by Sony.
Lammy · 2 years ago
Interesting to see a two-character dot-com domain.

  Updated Date: 2023-08-25T05:22:08Z
  Creation Date: 1994-05-20T04:00:00Z
  Registry Expiry Date: 2024-09-29T13:53:33Z

RachelF · 2 years ago
NI used to be big and well known to the electronic engineers in the 1980's and 90's who helped develop the early Internet.

See ti.com - Texas Instruments

commandersaki · 2 years ago
If I was a company I'd be registering the domain 10 years in advance.
TacticalCoder · 2 years ago
> Interesting to see a two-character dot-com domain.

Indeed. There's also this one letter dot-com with 500 million MAU: x.com.

immibis · 2 years ago
irrelevant and known to lie about MAU anyway
koshinae · 2 years ago
Oh, my... I've spent there 8 years.

I wonder what took so long to rekt themselves into an acquisition after Dr. T retired.

azhenley · 2 years ago
The acquisition was in 2023.
tapatio · 2 years ago
I loved their hardware, we used it to create a DAQ for rocket engines. It was a lot of fun, but also paid peanuts.