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smeej · 2 years ago
I think I was in my 30s before I found out that with NES Duck Hunt, if you plugged in a controller, player 2 could control the duck.
amarant · 2 years ago
He can WHAT? Omg I need to go buy a Nintendo! And a CRT!
thsksbd · 2 years ago
Dont bother, it sucks. The duck is still trying to fly a certain way and you're really just tugging at him.

If you want to try it out just run Duck Hunt on an emulator. You dont need a crt to just play with the duck

Dwedit · 2 years ago
The zapper goes into port 2, and a standard controller goes into port 1.

The game manual says that you can control the duck with the control pad (which is in player 1's controller port), which would usually be controlled by a second player. This isn't a secret to anyone who bothered to read the manual.

https://www.gamesdatabase.org/Media/SYSTEM/Nintendo_NES/manu...

JohannesH · 2 years ago
A bit harsh. I didn't know this. I mean, it could be that some people were not able to read english. I was too young to read english and it wasnt my native tongue. Also, my dad used to let us rent a NES and some games at our local video rental shop, so it just didn't come with a manual to read in the first place.
bazil376 · 2 years ago
Who’d have figured a bunch of people who didn’t read the docs would go on to become software developers
wkjagt · 2 years ago
I don't remember reading any of the manuals of any of the games I played as a kid in the 80s. I don't even remember seeing them. I just remember putting the game in the console as quickly as possible and figuring it out.
vundercind · 2 years ago
I think it was late 20s here, but I’d had the damn thing since I was like 6, including Duck Hunt. Mind was blown.

The highest purpose of this feature is to surreptitiously control the ducks while someone who doesn’t know about the feature is playing. You’ll have them cursing in no time :-)

Xeyz0r · 2 years ago
You learn something new everyday.
foxandmouse · 2 years ago
um... well, I just found this out at 32... granted I don't have access to my nes to confirm this.
ownagefool · 2 years ago
Can confirm. 39 now, but as a child I liked to troll my bro with player 2.
kvakerok · 2 years ago
My bro was so good at duck driving he made me rage quit duck hunt.
jzemeocala · 2 years ago
I would personally check that capacitor first before even touching the bulb.

That thing is well past the average shelf life for an electrolytic.

nicole_express · 2 years ago
Probably is worth a check; I usually default to assuming that a good brand capacitor without any evident signs of corrosion, leakage or swelling is probably fine, but this is very old and also a higher voltage circuit than what I'm used to.

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icehawk · 2 years ago
Since that looks like your normal camera flash circuit with xenon tube (the cap values are on point for one) I'd agree its likely the cap, unless there is anything visibly wrong with the flash tube.
pockybum522 · 2 years ago
That was my suggestion of what to try first when I responded to her original post on mastodon.
ffhhj · 2 years ago
And he means check it without touching it with bare skin or unprotected eyes and mouth.
stouset · 2 years ago
Who is checking capacitors by touching them to their eyes!?

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myrloc · 2 years ago
Anyone have ideas on why there aren’t more of these point and shoot at home games? I loved the ones I played as a kid. It always felt like something relegated to arcades
itishappy · 2 years ago
It was a major genre on the Wii. The Wii Zapper was an optional attachment that gave the WiiMote a pistol grip. Titles off the top of my head include CoD III, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, Resident Evil: The Umbrella Cronicles, Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles, and House of Dead II & III Return.

I think the main reason that it never took off much was that it kinda sucked. It worked great when it worked, but the tracking was often glitchy and it was super frustrating when you're counting bullets to have the occasionally shot go offscreen. I have a feeling we had a higher tolerance for this with Duck Hunt due to the novelty and arcade games due to the format. (I feel like arcade games tend to avoid showing you a reticle for this very reason, but I don't have data to back this up.)

That being said, I still ended up beating Metroid and both Resident Evils, so they were still super fun!

Also, I was in Dave and Busters recently and they had Time Crisis 5. Beat that too!

jrm4 · 2 years ago
FWIW, I had until now completely forgotten that I was playing these games at home, on a PC with a "shooter" experience.

They were mouse controlled, but I had a gyration air mouse -- (with the clever thing of instead of requiring infrared, it just had a 3rd button that had to be depressed for actual movement)

cubefox · 2 years ago
I'm surprised you call it glitchy. I heard elsewhere that Resident Evil 4 on Wii was easier than the GameCube original because the aiming was more precise than with a stick.
unleaded · 2 years ago
LCD televisions became popular which don't work with old light guns. We might have the sinden gun now but it kind of came too late, i don't think you can play much on it except for old/emulated games. although there was the Wii so i think people getting bored of light gun games could be a factor, they are all quite similar after all.
lupire · 2 years ago
Which people are voted of light guns? Young people never had a chance to try them.
wvenable · 2 years ago
This is a common game type for VR headsets now.
paulbgd · 2 years ago
There might not be many new games, but for the old games getting a used crt is free and the consoles are cheap too! I’ve been playing through the ps2 light gun games and it really does feel like you’ve got an arcade at home.
fardo · 2 years ago
The CRT requirement has pleasantly eroded recently.

A kickstarter a few years back for the Sinden light gun [1] realized that by using webcams, some quick image processing and perspective transforms, you could make a light gun work anywhere and could get real-time performance on non-CRTs by essentially adding a small border region of the screen, making it work on essentially any monitor. He filmed and wrote extensive technical breakdowns about the build process and mechanics at play, which were great.

The maker also seems to have had a solid understanding of what made those old light gun games cool, because he made sure to build versions with solenoid-based recoil as well as the big chunky metal foot pedal you’d use for games like time crisis.

[1] https://youtu.be/grcGpr_8W9Y?si=z800V7f62dDS1KGs

speps · 2 years ago
It still exists nowadays, works alright actually, very analog with interchangeable shapes, 2 guns, etc.

https://www.smythstoys.com/uk/en-gb/toys/games-puzzles-and-b...

blt · 2 years ago
"relegated" seems like the wrong word - the best ones IMO were the later arcade versions like Gunblade NY (pivot mounted machine gun style) or the Time Crisis series (big foot pedal to take cover) with special hardware that would be too expensive for home sales.
kodt · 2 years ago
There were home console versions of most of the Time Crisis games on PlayStation consoles. I think the 3rd and 4th games were on PS3 along with light guns. There were probably about 10-15 games on each console (PS1/PS2/PS3) which supported light guns. Although I don't think the home console versions had foot pedals, instead using a button or gun movement to achieve the same thing.
jareklupinski · 2 years ago
the most recent one i had at home was the Resident Evil rails shooter for the Wii

it was really fun with a friend

msds · 2 years ago
That's exactly a disposable camera flash circuit.
redbell · 2 years ago
Oh, Duck Hunt! I was a big fan of this classic in my childhood during the 90s, and I was always wondering how the gun does know if I am pointing it to the flying duck. Until recent years and, from nowhere, YT suggested this video to me where I finally deciphered this puzzle: https://youtu.be/cu83tZIAzlA
system2 · 2 years ago
Capacitor is #1 suspect. If not, probably flash tube is dead after dropped or had another type of impact. Just replace the flash tube with something similar to this:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/165491505983

bowsamic · 2 years ago
> In this case Nintendo was doing what Seg-already-did

Delicious reference

StanislavPetrov · 2 years ago
Brings back memories. In the mid 1980s Duck Hunt was one of the games that came included in the bundle (along with Gyromite and ROB the robot) when you bought the NES.
Xeyz0r · 2 years ago
Duck Hunt holds a special place in my heart