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Posted by u/costcopizza 2 years ago
Ask HN: 87yr old yoga teacher asked me to manage her website. Where to start?
Hi HN, I've been helping a truly wonderful lady with basic computer and YouTube tasks. That's evolved into her wanting me to take over website updates/management from the current person, who will not be doing it after a couple months.

All I know is that: "it's currently edited using Macromedia Dreamweaver from 2004 and then the process entails fusing file transfer protocol to upload to the server host (webhero). The software and OS cannot be upgraded on my old laptop which has Dreamweaver'

What is the easiest way to get this transferred or independent from a mid 2000s laptop?

On a scale of 1-10 of general technical ability, I'm a 3.

Thanks a ton

http://julierussell.org/

BadCookie · 2 years ago
If it were me, I’d just rebuild the site manually on something like Squarespace (or maybe Shopify) by copying-and-pasting the text and downloading/uploading any images you want to keep. I didn’t see any interactive features in my brief browsing of the site, but if there are any, it would influence my choice of which service to use.

The hardest part technically seems like it will be transferring the domain name.

sgentle · 2 years ago
Absolutely second this. I've done it both ways and the one where you're on the hook for website updates will eventually wear you down, no matter how good your intentions.

Most recently, I helped my hairdresser get Squarespace set up for his business. We had a few follow-up chats for the things he couldn't figure out, but other than that he's been fine updating it on his own. Most importantly, there's a frontline support team and it's not me; I'm happy to help, but I don't want to be on the critical path.

joemazerino · 2 years ago
This. Building something the client can manage or see herself manage is the essential step in migration process.

Macromedia 2004! Wowzers

codingdave · 2 years ago
If the laptop was using FTP to get the file uploaded, then you already have a directory of the static HTML for the site somewhere on the laptop. So no need to get fancy - find and copy that directory somewhere else and you have the site. Put it up on Github pages, S3, or really any host you want and you are free of the old laptop.

You will lose the editing in Dreamweaver, but you will have the content. And there are less than a dozen pages on that, without much in common with each other aside from a menu and the background, so you could edit the site by hand fairly easily, or you could put it into a modern tool in less than an hour and modernize the design at the same time (if she wants that.)

cjbprime · 2 years ago
The easiest way is probably to ignore the laptop, use a web spidering tool to download all of the content, and upload it to a no-code HTML tool like maybe wix.com (which I haven't actually used) and make changes using that.

A second option might be to ignore the laptop, use a web spidering tool, and then manually edit the HTML. That would not be very fun.

If this is an actual business, yoga studio websites these days all seem to integrate with other services like mindbodyonline.com to allow reservations etc.

dzhiurgis · 2 years ago
Sounds like there’s a massive market for tools like wix, squarespace or webflow to just scrape off your site and remake it into one of the many templates using chatgpt.

Surely something like this should already exist.

4death4 · 2 years ago
I second this. The days of running your website are over, except for hobbyists. Most people are much better served by spending a few dollars to get access to a high quality tool for managing your site.
codegeek · 2 years ago
If it is just a few pages and mostly static, I would rebuild using a CMS like WordPress for future maintenance or at the minimum, a brand new static site and host on a $5 digitalocean droplet or netlify/cloudflare pages.

Current setup is too old to try and work with and you may save time doing from scratch.

novateg · 2 years ago
Download the website using this tool https://website-downloader.onrender.com/ and start editing. You can use free hosting services like Netlify or Vercel to host the site. The website doesn't have a search presence, so even if you re-build, it doesn't hurt.
donclark · 2 years ago
Does the website work? If so how? The page never loads for me and I tried FF and Chrome. Thank you in advance.
novateg · 2 years ago
Let me know if you need assistance
threeboy · 2 years ago
The website is not stored on the laptop - those are more like working files. The HTML files (the "pages" for the website) get edited (in this case Dreamweaver) and UPLOADED to the webhosting/web server via an FTP program (FileZilla for example). The domain name (in this case the .org) points to the web server where the web page files are stored.

To just keep everything as is you would need the following from the old website people:

* The FTP credentials to upload the files. * The webhosting account login to renew the hosting fee (probably monthly or yearly). * The domain name account login (can be the same as webhosting, but not always) to renew the domain name fee (usually yearly).

Dreamweaver is an out of date program used to edit the (HTML) web page files. It's known as a WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) editor where you update the web pages as they look (or an approxmiation of what they look like). You could connect to the website via FTP and download the files to any computer and then edit them with Dreamweaver or learn some basic HTML and edit the HTML files using any text editor (such as notepad).

Like many have said you may better off rebuilding the website in a modern WYSIWYG tool. The website is dated but very simple - copying and pasting the content into a software as a service website provider (WIX, SquareSpace, Weebly) which shouldn't take much time and they are easy to use (drag and drop, WYSIWYG). Then you can login to your domain name account and re-point the DNS to the new website and then cancel the old webhosting and not worry about it anymore.

NoZebra120vClip · 2 years ago
Perhaps you should discuss with this prospective client why she believes that she needs a website at all. Most services in this class do much better with a social media presence and someone to manage it: e.g., Facebook, Instagram, X, etc.

With a Facebook presence alone, she could reach most of her customers, and FB would provide access to help her build content such as multimedia posts, image collections, event announcements, and links out to such things as "Set an Appointment" or whatever.

A website these days is mostly static, passive, and not really on customers' critical path. It is much better for a business's reach if you can get customers to like/follow a social media account or three, especially if you have a savvy manager who will keep it alive, making regular posts, and hopefully even responding to DMs.

boopmaster · 2 years ago
At the risk of sounding rude, you could start by politely declining the request. It's certainly an option. :)
pipeline_peak · 2 years ago
Seriously, if you have no problem doing this in your spare time for free, then your time isn’t really that valuable.
saaaaaam · 2 years ago
Curious attitude. I’ve always found that the people who have the most “valuable” spare time are the most willing to give some of that to help others - because they understand what true value means - which is nothing at all to do with money and everything to do with connection and community.

But yeah, some people value their spare time in dollar amounts, and they’ll never get beyond a hustle and grind “hourly rate” mindset.

jessekv · 2 years ago
Even good lawyers will work pro bono sometimes.

Most likely at a much higher (real) marginal cost than a salaried software dev.