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throwup238 · 2 years ago
"Free speech massacre"? The hyperbole has gotten out of hand but I for one can't wait for the first article title that starts with "C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER"
candiddevmike · 2 years ago
A hyperbole about restricting free speech on a platform owned by a "free speech absolutist" will never get old.
thegrim33 · 2 years ago
They forgot to throw in a "surging"; that's their favorite hyperbole in recent years: "bans of journalists SURGING on X".

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smoothjazz · 2 years ago
On one hand, yes. On the other, there is a literal massacre of humans happening right now and this censorship is definitely related. So it is very dangerous in a real and urgent way.
snapplebobapple · 2 years ago
Which one are you referring to there are too many ongoing for me to be certain and I don't want to think poorly of you for calling the military action in Gaza a massacre if you are referring to something else
throw310822 · 2 years ago
If the accounts were suspended and almost immediately restored after Musk's intervention, couldn't the explanation be that some actors managed to trick the system into getting them banned (for example through a flood of reporting) rather than something initiated in Twitter itself?
imchillyb · 2 years ago
An attack with immediate moderation seems the most plausible explanation, without further data.
throwaway4good · 2 years ago
How does accounts with 500.000 followers get mistakenly closed by a spambot?

This is obviously related to the cancel-thy-neighbour over Israel/Palestine that is going on at the moment. Mr. Musk is just too shy to admit it.

threeseed · 2 years ago
Twitter's bot system is fundamentally broken right now.

If you look here you can see OpenAI being used en-masse across the platform all blue-ticked indicating that they will not be flagged as spam. And showing exactly what Musk said would not happen when he changed what blue-tick meant.

https://www.threads.net/@parkermolloy/post/C14qS_CJp8q

darkwater · 2 years ago
ChatGPT bots are one of the worse problem of Twitter, but I really don't get how the math can work for them. Between the blue tick and the OpenAI API costs, how can they make actually some profit with subpar-quality tweets that leech from big accounts and basically redescribe the original post? What am I missing?
aerodog · 2 years ago
Elon isn't above lying
IntelMiner · 2 years ago
The twitter meme of putting replies to ELO's "Mr Blue Sky" for every lie Elon has told would probably make the song go on for hours
taeric · 2 years ago
There is a decent related question for how many of those followers are legitimate?

I think it is somewhat likely that any account with a lot of followers has a lot of bot followers. I could easily see any "clean up the bots" script being wrong on taking down some legitimate posters that are in the neighborhood of a lot of bots.

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numpad0 · 2 years ago
Oh, so Twitter ban-wave is a thing in the English world too? That has been a problem since long before the takeover, and I think it's also one of reasons why rather few aside from spammers use human names and sign up for paid plans.

Twitter the system bans prominent accounts in frequency and amount for no discernible reasons(it's "Twitter Rules"). That had completely normalized ban evasions to the point even its support personnel sometimes suggested it in the past.

Users won't pay to get banned[1]. Businesses can't rely on ID provider that unexist hard earned customers. People flee to competitors when the platform does this and require social graph reconstructions. It's not a new phenomenon, it's a plague somewhere within the system that needs to be fixed by a major re-architecture.

1: Anecdotally, but in fact I've seen users signing up for the paid Blue program when it was first introduced, hoping for preferential treatment for paid accounts with regard to bans, only to report back in disappointment - and I've seen it precisely because those users had promptly gone through the ban and evasion process and came back in the buzz.

hermitcrab · 2 years ago
Lets let a petulant man-child control one of the most important media companies in the world. What could possibly go wrong?
tourmalinetaco · 2 years ago
“Important” is not what I would use to describe one of the most toxic and uninteresting cesspools to come out of the Internet.
greenie_beans · 2 years ago
unfortunately that's why it's important. it's like a cesspool being upstream of a city's water source being an "important" problem.
mulligan · 2 years ago
Useful to consider how many accounts that are not high profile were deleted and if these high profile accounts were a casualty ofa much more aggressive attempt to silence a segment of voices then then next question is, what is the criteria being used?
greenie_beans · 2 years ago
first discussed then flagged here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38927699
paulpauper · 2 years ago
Musk's mistake, as others mention, was positioning himself as a free speech absolutist, which was a promise he could not possibly keep, nor did he really want to. He's following the same sort of approach as other tech CEOs.
consumer451 · 2 years ago
Sure, but most people are self-aware, or just aware, enough not to claim to be one.

edit: the parent comment has been edited since my reply, it used to make a bit more sense.

zzzeek · 2 years ago
there is of course a model for making completely outrageous, easily disproven assertions and running with them without ever having to walk them back, and it's called Donald Trump. Musk keeps trying to use the same playbook but lacks the skills.
threatofrain · 2 years ago
How can people still be on the free speech narrative? PG and a lot of other famous people got punished just for the mere mention of 3rd-tier chat platforms.

Imagine you're setting a standard on free speech and you draw the line at the mention of Mastodon.

Nas808 · 2 years ago
He seems to spout a lot of things about free speech, and about how Twitter is the only place to get your voice heard without censorship, etc. But if a journalist crosses him or pens an article that paints one of his companies in a negative light... they're gone.
logicchains · 2 years ago
>but who is

The guy who runs GAB, pretty much everything that's not pornography is allowed there.