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joblessjunkie · 2 years ago
As an old fart who actually used a typewriter, I must point out that the bell does not ring when you press the carriage return. The bell rings when you are nearing the end of the line to warn you that you are bout to run out of paper.

On carriage return, the sound should be a slow swing of the heavy carriage physically returning.

stavros · 2 years ago
This is odd, I could have sworn mine rang the bell when the carriage return returned to the start of the line, so it was more of a "swoooosh ding!", but I watched a video and you're right. Very odd.
plexxer · 2 years ago
On mine, the force of the carriage returning was enough that it jostled the bell and it rang softly. Perhaps that is what you were remembering?
cbm-vic-20 · 2 years ago
The bell was rang (rung?) when you were around ten columns away from the right side of the paper, as a notification to the user to manually use the carriage return bar, or use the return key on the fancy electric typewriters.
queuebert · 2 years ago
The ding is your cue to return the carriage. You were well conditioned. :-P
joemi · 2 years ago
Maybe this is your Mandela Effect moment?
nerdbert · 2 years ago
Also, shift should make a sound, and both space and backspace obviously have their own sounds, which are different from typing a character.
Jolter · 2 years ago
I thought I heard shift sounds in the demo video?
orhunp · 2 years ago
Thanks for your comment! I created an issue about this: https://github.com/orhun/daktilo/issues/22
LanceH · 2 years ago
Maybe a thunk, advancing to the next line if it's a powered typewriter.

Those IBM selectrics were overbuilt. They vibrated and hummed when turned on.

imchillyb · 2 years ago
Our office still has a manual typewriter, and an IBM Selectric.

The bell rings when the Page Stops are reached. These can be manually set on the page. The bell rings, the typist plans for end of line, then they whack the bar and zzzzz-thunk the carriage returns.

otteromkram · 2 years ago
Chiming in to complement your amazing username.
sound1 · 2 years ago
that is the 2nd immediate thing i noticed about that post and 100% agree with you! :-)
throw0101a · 2 years ago
Related, "Shift Happens is a beautifully designed history of how keyboards got this way":

> It's the 150th anniversary of the QWERTY keyboard, and Marcin Wichary has put together the kind of history and celebration this totemic object deserves. Shift Happens is a two-volume, 1,200-plus-page work with more than 1,300 photos, researched over seven years and cast lovingly into type and photo spreads that befit the subject.

* https://arstechnica.com/culture/2023/10/shift-happens-is-a-b...

jmcphers · 2 years ago
If you're on macOS, a similar program named Klack[1] was featured on HN recently, too[2]. It's very polished and has a variety of different keyboard sounds among which to choose.

[1] https://tryklack.com/ [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37395370

Snelius · 2 years ago
Much better. Thank you.
Nevermark · 2 years ago
Hacker News is no place for frivolous humor!

And yet … sometimes …

> daktilo ("typewriter" in Turkish, pronounced "DUCK-til-oh"

(Painfully obvious highlighting, all mine.)

So what we have here is a duck type writer helping you write code?

How much duck type would a duck typer with a duck type writer, type, if a duck typer had a duck type writer to type duck type?

(Citation: Nevermark, re. Dactilo, HN, 2023.)

Ok that’s out of the way.

Nevermark · 2 years ago
Oh man, painfully obvious that this exploiter left an obvious exploit unexploited:

How much ducktype would a ducktype writer with a duck typewriter, type, if a ducktype writer had a duck typewriter to type ducktype?

RichieAHB · 2 years ago
I want to hear that at normal typing speed. I feel like, unless there are a good amount of slightly varied samples, it's going to have that TR-808 repetitive vibe going on ...
tiborsaas · 2 years ago
I was also put off by the static, repetitive sounds. My suggestion would be to record 5-10 sounds and pick randomly, slightly tuned them up/down with some filtering.
CodeWriter23 · 2 years ago
Different hammers on an old typewriter made different sounds likely due to differences in mass and the angle of approach.
varispeed · 2 years ago
That should really be recorded in stereo and at least 20 samples for each key, possibly at different strength and then some sort of algo that would pick samples depending on how vigorously someone types.

Then that still wouldn't capture the intermodulation etc.

It's a lot of work to actually make it sound remotely realistic.

numpad0 · 2 years ago
Maybe the sound should be played in proportionate intervals to typing speed, rather than upon "hits", with the last one somehow cleverly ending with key-up and/or first key-down inevitably absent.
celaleddin · 2 years ago
This is cool! Also, reminds me of selectic-mode for Emacs:

https://github.com/rbanffy/selectric-mode

coldblues · 2 years ago
If you're wondering, it doesn't work on Wayland.
davidthewatson · 2 years ago
I'm sad because I run rust on hyprland and love the idea.

Does anyone know why "it doesn't work on Wayland"?

mewse-hn · 2 years ago
Software noises don't really impress me when there are mechanical keyboards with solenoids that slam into the casing for every keystroke