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Nevermark commented on Privately-Owned Rail Cars   amtrak.com/privately-owne... · Posted by u/jasoncartwright
amrocha · 10 hours ago
How can you be so sure that you’re evaluating ideas fairly? How can you be so sure you’re not biased? What if you have an intrinsic bias that you’re unaware of shaping every single decision you make? What if that bias was instilled into you purposefully by people who wanted their ideology to seem like the “rational” way of being?

You should be more skeptic of yourself.

Nevermark · 9 hours ago
I don't have any "beliefs", just best understandings at any give time, which I am constantly and actively improving.

Of course I don't know everything about anything. It floors me that people ever think they do. And that many are not motivated learners or listeners, even/often in the areas they most care about.

I can't make sense of your negative assessment of a few private cars paying their way on public tracks, already used by large organizations.

But the way you described public access in general was a good viewpoint, and that helped me clarify my own reasoning.

You didn't explicitly use the words marginal cost, but your description was very close to that, and it really struck me as the heart of the matter. A consistent way to think about moral economic policies for public things being made available to private parties, at serious discounts, but without public tax dollars subsidizing those private parties. (Unless subsidizing for everyone is the point, like libraries.)

All things being equal, it is morally wrong when taxes subsidize something only wealthy people can afford. That seems like a point of agreement.

Subtle distinctions can matter a lot, as it did here, so thank you.

Cheers!

Nevermark commented on Privately-Owned Rail Cars   amtrak.com/privately-owne... · Posted by u/jasoncartwright
amrocha · a day ago
You claiming that you “don’t have ideology” is exactly what I’m referring to. Yes you do. Everyone does, and every argument has an ideology behind it. If you can’t see it, that just means you’re so used to it you’re blind to it, like a fish in the ocean. That’s a dangerous state of mind to be in, it’s very easy to manipulate the person that believes they’re objectively right.

You should look up dialectics, it sounds like there would be a lot of new material there for you.

And as for your park example, sure, I’ll explain why it’s not the same thing.

If it costs 10$ to rent a BBQ spot in the park for an hour, do you think that that’s how much it costs to provide that service? It most likely isn’t. Payment is used as a way to limit demand and to ensure commitment for utilization of a limited shared resource. That’s why these resources are usually priced accessibly to the vast majority of the population. The goal is not to make money, the goal is to ensure the shared resource is utilized efficiently.

Do you think that that’s what’s going on here with letting rich people buy access to public infrastructure? It’s not, this is a for profit operation. This service is inaccessible to the vast majority of the population, regardless of whether it’s for sale to the public or not. This is not about sharing a resource, it’s about letting rich people monopolize resources as long as they have the money to pay for it.

Nevermark · 18 hours ago
> You claiming that you “don’t have ideology” is exactly what I’m referring to. Yes you do. Everyone does, and every argument has an ideology behind it.

Ideology refers to groups of related ideas that people feel some kind of loyalty too, or priority for. For instance strong libertarians (who have trouble seeing the many limitations of their otherwise good ideas), strident capitalists, communists, etc.

I don't have any loyalty to any ideas beyond how much they make sense, and how relevant they are. Wherever you make sense I will readily adopt ideas from you.

> That’s why these resources are usually priced accessibly to the vast majority of the population. The goal is not to make money, the goal is to ensure the shared resource is utilized efficiently.

Here you do make sense. And it is true.

Public assets are often made available to the public, for private use, at their marginal costs. Which are much lower costs than a business or other large organization would be charged. Those organizations are expected to cover their share of both marginal and primary costs - which are much greater. But fees for the public generally only cover the marginal costs. I.e. if for potential clean up, avoid over booking (as you noted), or whatever.

Marginal costs provide a massive discount for individuals, but are not a subsidy either.

Perhaps that is the missing piece here.

The flexibility of the rail system to work with individuals is admirable. It provides enthusiasts the ability to renovate historically interesting artifacts and continue to give them life. Living connections to the past have a public cultural benefit. With harm done to none.

Nevermark commented on Privately-Owned Rail Cars   amtrak.com/privately-owne... · Posted by u/jasoncartwright
amrocha · a day ago
The fish is blind to the ocean. All of your arguments are soaked in the ideology of economic primacy. From where I stand, it seems like you’re the one that refuses to understand the argument that doesn’t agree with your ideology.

And to be clear, I couldn’t care less if you own a rail car, but you shouldn’t get to use public infrastructure to operate it.

Nevermark · a day ago
> The fish is blind to the ocean. All of your arguments are soaked in the ideology of economic primacy.

Ok. I guess if you had any actual points you would have made them instead of poor sport poetry and blatant projection.

I don't believe in economic primacy.

Nor do I have ideology. I don't think any one way of looking at things can ever be complete. As I already stated.

It was you, who explicitly outed yourself as ideological, and are making ideological arguments instead of practical ones based on actual harm or benefit.

People or businesses pay to use public parks for events, public buildings, school buses, the list is endless. People like this. It is viewed as pro-sharing, pro-community. These options makes public asset more valuable to the public, help defray costs, and increase the good they generate for society. With any harm or mistreatment to anyone.

Nevermark commented on U.S. government takes 10% stake in Intel   cnbc.com/2025/08/22/intel... · Posted by u/givemeethekeys
Nevermark · 2 days ago
If the US had bought 10% of TSMC, with no voting rights - just increased dependency - it would have sent a very strong signal.

Its an interesting idea, not a serious suggestion.

Nevermark commented on U.S. government takes 10% stake in Intel   cnbc.com/2025/08/22/intel... · Posted by u/givemeethekeys
JackYoustra · 2 days ago
if someone believes this, they should buy intel and just do it outright! But no one does because it's not as easy as "just think long term" - if it were, berkshire has the liquid money to buy intel several times over.
Nevermark · 2 days ago
A large new powerful shareholder come in supporting long term thinking does make a difference.

Public shareholders are generally short term motivated.

One clear reason it doesn't make as much sense to Buffet is he wouldn't get the national security hedge that made the stock a buy for the government.

Nevermark commented on U.S. government takes 10% stake in Intel   cnbc.com/2025/08/22/intel... · Posted by u/givemeethekeys
llllm · 2 days ago
It means Intel is far worse off than publicly acknowledged, and without this it might be worthless.
Nevermark · 2 days ago
It doesn't mean that.

Sometimes, there are returns on investments beyond what an accountant would calculate, but the investment only costs the same. Making stock priced only for normal returns a buy for beneficiaries of said additional returns.

In this case, reducing the risk associated with the imported chip supply.

Nevermark commented on Scientists just found a protein that reverses brain aging in mice   sciencedaily.com/releases... · Posted by u/stevenjgarner
punkpeye · 2 days ago
Serious question: With all the advancements in mice medicine, are we theoretically able to create immortal mice?
Nevermark · 2 days ago
I think if we were, we would have immortal mice.
Nevermark commented on The US Department of Agriculture Bans Support for Renewables   insideclimatenews.org/new... · Posted by u/mooreds
jeffbee · 2 days ago
While this is true, it's also true that they were pretty awful early thermal solar panels and Reagan removed them not to own the libs but because the roof was leaking. I doubt that this was politically motivated by Reagan, or that Reagan was generally cognizant of anything in 1986.
Nevermark · 2 days ago
The symbolic impact of removing but not replacing them was nationally, even internationally, significant.

The "economics" of a particular roof repair are simply irrelevant in this context.

Nevermark commented on Privately-Owned Rail Cars   amtrak.com/privately-owne... · Posted by u/jasoncartwright
amrocha · 3 days ago
I’m not confusing anything, I just disagree with you.

It’s not an economic argument, it’s an ideological one. Public goods should serve the public. No amount of money can change that.

Nevermark · 2 days ago
> It’s not an economic argument, it’s an ideological one.

I see. Other's shouldn't make economic choices based on economically created benefit or harm, but to submit to your ideology.

Yet, these were never public goods. And they are more available to the public now.

Reality doesn't conform to ideology. The latter only helps when it contributes to understanding, instead of limiting it.

Nevermark commented on My development team costs $41.73 a month   philipotoole.com/my-devel... · Posted by u/datadrivenangel
mjr00 · 2 days ago
No, it's clickbait and that's why this submission got flagged, sorry.

A team is comprised of people. Being able to prompt an LLM to create a pull request based on specifications is very useful, but it's not a team member, the same way that VSCode isn't a team member even though autocomplete is a massive productivity increase, the same way that pypi isn't a team member even though a central third party dependency repository makes development significantly faster than not having one.

If this article were "I get a massive productivity boost from $41.73/month in developer tools" it'd be honest. As it is, it's dishonest clickbait.

As the saying goes, there is no "AI" in "Team".

Nevermark · 2 days ago
That is not a clickbait title. It is normal use of language, and the articles contents are not surprising or misleading relative to the title.

Titles don't need to be pedantic.

u/Nevermark

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