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Disruptive_Dave · 2 years ago
The copy on this page is just choking on itself.

> To picture a Chat, imagine if your group texts and your Instagram Stories met at the park, talked for hours, became best friends and fell in love. 9 months later, they gave birth to a new way of keeping in touch – one that lets you hear your friends’ voices, meet their friends, and spend less time typing. If “social messaging” were a thing, that’s what it would be.

Wow.

dilyevsky · 2 years ago
If I’m reading that right they basically made google wave on mobile. Not the worst idea if executed right
version_five · 2 years ago
It seems they've pivoted to something few people on HN are likely to use. Does anyone here use instagram stories? So maybe this appeals to their target demographic?
reducesuffering · 2 years ago
> Does anyone here use instagram stories?

This is the most common social media for people under 40 in the US, very self evident if you have a social group of all ages and have used all major apps.

satvikpendem · 2 years ago
I don't use stories but I often use their Reels feature. There are some great shorts there, it really reminds me of the Vine days.
mathgeek · 2 years ago
Did they actually use “getting pregnant on the first date” as what they want to emulate?
onionisafruit · 2 years ago
It seems like that, but I don’t know the gestation period for social media sites. Is it nine months?
jefftk · 2 years ago
I don't interpret "met at the park, talked for hours, became best friends and fell in love" as all taking place on the first date?
natvod · 2 years ago
I can read and catch up on many group text messages very quickly but having to go through dozens of voice messages sounds much more time consuming, even if you can choose faster speeds.

Plus, unless you're a superb on the spot thinker or on a rip that day, it can be hard to express longer thoughts in one shot and having to rerecord is also not appealing. With text, you can edit it easily.

3np · 2 years ago
Just noting that only girls are sending messages in this app, judging by the frontpage.

I assume this is done quite deliberately and it's easy to imagine how marketing ends up here. Greg and a few more guys are still there on the receiving end, no need to complain about being unrepresented.

(using "girls"/"guys" because that's definitely what they're going for)

klabb3 · 2 years ago
Finally! It’s been days if not weeks since the last social app was released. People suffer every day from having too unified friend graphs, and this brings some well needed fragmentation in the app silos we all love. I can’t wait to build another incomplete social graph of a slightly different demographic.

It’s also incredibly refreshing to see marketing for “personal chats with friends” combined with not a single mention of outdated fads like “privacy” and “encryption”. This leaves the door open for data collection of intimate relationships – an underrepresented data source in todays ad targeting frameworks.

qlm · 2 years ago
I can't help but feel like social media companies are desperately trying to "innovate" but long ago ran into the limits of the medium.

You have a device which can play sound and display text, images and videos. There's only so many ways you can shuffle those things around.

ChicagoBoy11 · 2 years ago
...and yet I have a feeling nikita bier will continue to press "shuffle" and make himself a few more dozen million dollars a few more times.

Partly kidding but partly serious hehe.

satvikpendem · 2 years ago
Indeed, it's quite impressive that he could build and sell the same app twice. Maybe he'll do it a few more times before people catch on.
xnx · 2 years ago
Smart design decisions make a lot of difference. TikTok didn't have any new technology, but absolutely wiped the floor with Instagram and YouTube.
heliophobicdude · 2 years ago
If anyone from Clubhouse is reading this, or any entrepreneurs in this space, it's soooo hard managing whether or not I can get my friends into a new platform if some or all have conceptions that they would need an invite in order to use the app.
nikolay · 2 years ago
A good domain name and nothing more!
moralestapia · 2 years ago
And 110M funding but your point stands, no talent.
reducesuffering · 2 years ago
Never forget how much a16z cheerleaded them and financed this whole fiasco
nikolay · 2 years ago
They forced Clubhouse (clubhouse.io) to rebrand to Shortcut, too.
reducesuffering · 2 years ago
"We didn’t build Clubhouse because it was a smart thing to do. Social products rarely work"

Wow, they're already prepping their "our incredible journey" blog post next.

"We did it because we love this product"

That's why you're pivoting into a new one?