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abracadaniel · 3 years ago
The cat and mouse game continues. We’ve been in a cycle of YouTube increasing the ads, driving more people to block them. I’m not sure that pushing harder on the audience with the lowest tolerance to ads is the way to go, but I guess we’ll find out. Maybe there’s enough people who will cave and don’t have the technical literacy to find further workarounds. I’ve been saying for a while, that if YouTube really cared, they’d make you login, or otherwise choose not to let you watch and here we are. Seems like the obvious workarounds are VPNs or alternative front ends.
chris37879 · 3 years ago
I hopped on the youtube premium train a long time back, just because I mainly used youtube to consume podcasts and the like and it paid my creators better and got me no ads on youtube anywhere. The first time these BS policies hit me, a paying user, I will cancel it and never look back.
jkaplowitz · 3 years ago
The official statement from Google included in the article makes it seem like Google is de facto fine with paid YouTube Premium subscribers using ad blockers, whether or not the legalese officially allows that. That makes sense since they wouldn’t be showing you ads anyway. So I doubt they’ll be targeting you with this new policy.
CryptoBanker · 3 years ago
Adblockers help prevent data collection, which I’m sure YT does have a problem with.
unloco · 3 years ago
I was a family subscriber for 15 a month. Then they bumped the family plan up to $23 or something like that.

Yea no thanks, we have ad blockers and now use Orion browser to watch on ios mobile.

scarface_74 · 3 years ago
Why would you use YouTube to consume podcasts instead of a purpose built podcast player?
chris37879 · 3 years ago
Lots of reasons, chief of which being, I primarily consume them at my desk on my spare monitor, and the ones I follow usually have some visual stuff to check out.

Couple that with being a programmer, and I get a lot of mileage out of youtube.

gemanor · 3 years ago
YouTube knows that people who insist to not watch ads/pay premium will find a way to watch it for free, and they don't mind it. They mind of people who got the ad blocker as freeware and watched YouTube without ads when they don't mind getting it. Looking at YouTube numbers and the growing hype of Arc browser and other freeware blockers, make sense of such a not-insisting ad blocker wall.
distances · 3 years ago
This requires that you are logged in to YouTube, doesn't it? I'm not sure how deep in the minority I am, but I use all Google services in private browsing mode if I can get away with it.
mrastro · 3 years ago
Without logging in some features are restricted. Most notably allowing viewing of videos that might be graphic (e.g. involve sensitive topics) you must prove you're 18+ by logging in.
ProllyInfamous · 3 years ago
...or use one of the MANY download websites which DNGAF about logging in.
CrzyLngPwd · 3 years ago
That's a good point.

I might just designate Edge as my "google" browser :-)

add-sub-mul-div · 3 years ago
I have a home toolchain making use of flask, yt-dlp, sponsorblock, plex, and ersatztv and it all works so well. I could not imagine watching youtube in a browser or a crappy roku app.

I just have to hope this war never comes to my small village.

arming9513 · 3 years ago
This sounds interesting. I tried something similar with Django. You have a write up on this?
add-sub-mul-div · 3 years ago
It doesn't take much glue to make them work together. I paste a url into a textbox, flask runs yt-dlp in a subprocess, file saves to an area already defined to be a Plex library for youtube videos. I make playlists or ersatztv schedules as needed in the respective UIs.
pawelduda · 3 years ago
And some users will be testing three-strikes policy for yt bullshit
fxtentacle · 3 years ago
I wonder if we could just declare all older and public YouTube videos as cultural heritage and then legally backup them.
conception · 3 years ago
We, the human race, own all media. It’s all our culture. We can do what we want with it. We’ve just been trained to not remember that.
Lornedon · 3 years ago
We, the human race, own all windows. We can just throw stones into them. We've just been trained not to remember that.
churchill · 3 years ago
As a free market maximalist, I believe YouTube has the right to show me as many ads as possible; but I reserve the right to close my eyes and not watch them.

An adblocker helps me close my eyes at scale, and so if YouTube wants to interfere with that, that's where we'll have a little issue.

Gigachad · 3 years ago
Don’t they have the right to stop serving you content?
churchill · 3 years ago
Yes, they also do and I wholeheartedly support that as well. How many customers are they willing to piss off for their anti-adblock push? That's the question.