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dundarious · 3 years ago
From the linked “how to enable flakes” article:

> As you can see, it uses our ./configuration.nix as a module. What are modules again? Per NixOS wiki:

> > Modules are files combined by NixOS to produce the full system configuration. A module contains a Nix expression. It declares options for other modules to define (give a value). It processes them and defines options declared in other modules.

> Simple as.

If only.

Also, the article is very much a How not a Why.

drakerossman · 3 years ago
>If only.

Could you please elaborate?

dundarious · 3 years ago
I think the quoted documentation is not well written. Modules may be simple, but this description is certainly not. It reads like someone wrote a longer, more complicated but detailed sentence, and then in an effort to improve it, clipped it down in a very “lossy” way into shorter, punchier statements.

Nix has volumes of half useful documentation like this.

xpe · 3 years ago
Suggestion for the author: the “why use it” discussion deserves it own heading. As I write this, that content is situated in the “What is Home Manager” section.
yakattak · 3 years ago
I want to setup my configs using Nix and Home Manager but I just find it so confusing and not very user friendly. Every guide I’ve seen is either a really basic case of setting up a single package and config or an extremely complicated setup using Flakes that I can’t wrap my head around.

This guide I feel like falls more into the former, it gives you a really basic example but isn’t enough to go off for me.

stuzenz · 3 years ago
Drake's book looks great. I appreciate his efforts to create a mental model and learning approach to NixOS.

I found a set of tutorials on YouTube by Will, to be incredibly helpful at the beginning of my NixOS journey. Even though these tutorials are a couple of years old, they should have aged well.

Drake's book, should help confirm some assumptions I've made about how NixOS works. Given NixOS's declarative nature, I find it easy to copy configurations to do what I want - a handy approach when pressed for time, but it does leave some gaps in understanding that need to be filled.

You can find the tutorials I mentioned at the following link: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-saUBvIJzOkjAw_vOac7...

The tutorials are easy to understand and have good explanations

yeck · 3 years ago
I think it is wise to use Nix for a bit before trying to manage all your user configs with it. Using `nix-shell` for project dependencies is a good starting point. You can't really make any costly mistakes here since the scope of any given project is likely much less than all your system and user configurations.

Nix shell plus something like direnv using flakes or nix expressions (non-flake approach) would give you a chance to learn the language and ecosystem. Once you feel comfortable with this, home-manager should be much more approachable.

woile · 3 years ago
kaashif · 3 years ago
> If you happen to have a necessity for such a thing, you're better off using Home Manager, else you would end up implementing parts of Home Manager by yourself.

So if I need to do X then I should use Y, but why do I need to do X?

Maybe I'm missing it and it's really obvious.

tetris11 · 3 years ago
User level dot files, instead of system wide
assbuttbuttass · 3 years ago
I use NixOS daily on my PC, but I haven't tried home manager. I never saw the benefit since my dot files are managed in git anyway
garrisonhh · 3 years ago
I use NixOS daily as well, I installed home-manager as part of my initial configuration and have basically just ended up using configuration.nix in a git repo for everything anyways since I'm the only user. It feels like a good idea in theory, but I don't think it's actually that useful for most
__MatrixMan__ · 3 years ago
I've been meaning to switch home manager to flake mode. This will be helpful, thanks.
tsuujin · 3 years ago
I recently flipped my config over to a flake, and I’m glad I did. Feels like flakes are just easier to understand with less mystery.
return_to_monke · 3 years ago
I don't think so. there is a lot of hidden complexitxy in flakes.

If you have time, may I ask you to please provide more opinion on what's easier to understand?

We are always looking for more input.

heyoni · 3 years ago
Drake, you misspelled your own book title on that page. Just search for “partical”.
drakerossman · 3 years ago
Thank you for pointing that out!
heyoni · 3 years ago
no problem :)