Readit News logoReadit News
paxys · 3 years ago
Layoffs. Bonuses cut. Raises and promos frozen. No shit a random employee survey is going to trend downward.

Ask the outside world on the other hand and they’ll say Microsoft leadership is doing a stellar job. The stock market definitely reflects it.

pjmlp · 3 years ago
Only those on the outside not involved with Windows desktop development with agree with a stellar job description.

Those still involved in Windows desktop, will assert that they are running like headless chickens, no clue which UI framework to invest, downgraded the development experience back to pre-.NET days, no longer hold the golden rule of backwards compatibility, and have teams of a ridiculous tiny size, only capable of bug fixing and very small feature development.

So most likely any employee involved in Windows desktop development, that doesn't drink the Kool Aid of COM/C++, will also not vote with much thrust on their business unit future.

imperialdrive · 3 years ago
Is this why Teams has steadily gone from useful to useless? It used to just work, and now it's a source of frustration multiple times a day with bugs and delays and features being lost in the new version. So annoying.
opmelogy · 3 years ago
> Those still involved in Windows desktop, will assert that they are running like headless chickens

I was wondering what was going on there because Windows is so incredibly bad in so many ways. I need my computer for productivity - not consumption - and Windows really seems good at getting in the way a lot of time. If I could jump back to using a Mac for work I would do it in a heartbeat.

Deleted Comment

iinnPP · 3 years ago
So the people making more money because the employees are making less money are happy, and that means the leadership is doing well.

Money means too much to too many people.

heyoni · 3 years ago
Money means everything in a world where safety nets are fraught with disdain.

Dead Comment

LispSporks22 · 3 years ago
It’s right there in the article’s TLDR: “Microsoft closed the poll before it paused raises and cut bonuses and stock awards.”
praisewhitey · 3 years ago
>Ask the outside world on the other hand and they’ll say Microsoft leadership is doing a stellar job.

I doubt a majority of Windows users are happy with the direction Microsoft is taking.

nine_zeros · 3 years ago
The industry has changed immensely. What used to be 5 year software engineering careers in one company has changed to 1.5-w years.

Some of it is because of employers undervaluing existing employees. Some of it is because technology is changing too fast, so compensation is higher elsewhere.

But mostly, it is because of layers and layers and layers of management that stunt engineers with BS OKRs and performance ratings.

Literally none of the tech management is driving new products, better services, better ideas and yet, they control employees. They steer entire teams into crises. Why would anyone have confidence in them?

In a battlefield, would soldiers have more confidence in commanders who understand the battlefield or would they have more confidence in "pseudo-leaders" who say BS and use performance ratings to fire people?

mrjin · 3 years ago
Just look at Windows 10, it explains everything.
trinsic2 · 3 years ago
Actually. Windows 11 explains everything.
layer8 · 3 years ago
It started with Windows 8.
NayamAmarshe · 3 years ago
I'll go against the flow and say Windows 8 was the last time they tried something new and bold.
Lio · 3 years ago
Does no one remember Vista?

Or ME come to think of it.

tester756 · 3 years ago
I think it is quite expected after layoffs / bonuses pause, right?

I don't think this is due to beliefs that e.g strategy is bad or something?

or is it?

bperki8 · 3 years ago
> Notably, Microsoft closed the annual poll called "Employee Signals" before announcing it would pause raises and cut bonuses and stock awards this year, a decision some employees have criticized in questions to company leaders viewed by Insider.
tester756 · 3 years ago
I thought they had pauses in previous year too, nvm then

Deleted Comment

justinclift · 3 years ago
Directly related:

Microsoft Freezes Salaries for 2023 / https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35889709