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JamesBarney · 3 years ago
It seems like the problem they tried to solve is "people cost more than GPU's".

It's a large an ambitious problem but they pulled it off.

xracy · 3 years ago
Where have they replaced people with GPUs? Or made people cost less than GPUs?
JamesBarney · 3 years ago
I'm already seeing people reduce the number of people they need to hire based on chatgpt.
Incipient · 3 years ago
Now you pay a gpu to complete your homework, not a person. That's one example.
thih9 · 3 years ago
Elsewhere we have “We have no moat, and neither does OpenAI” [1] and it doesn't paint a bright future for OpenAI.

If they didn't target any problem, will OpenAI continue to be worth $30 billion if/when LLMs become as accessible as, say, relational databases?

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35813322

sebzim4500 · 3 years ago
That article makes a convincing argument that there is no moat around GPT-3.5 or Bard, but at present no one else is anywhere near GPT-4.
RC_ITR · 3 years ago
RDMS are a solved problem, but Oracle is still a quarter-trillion dollar company.
Gys · 3 years ago
Vendor lock-in working well? How could OpenAI implement that?
flappyeagle · 3 years ago
It sounds like they solved a wide problem instead of a narrow one
TeMPOraL · 3 years ago
They demonstrated that "build it, and they will come" works if what you build turns out to be useful enough.
satisfice · 3 years ago
I also ignore this rule, in my life and work.

As do most of us.

I will accept my billion-dollar valuation now. Thanks.

ianbutler · 3 years ago
I don't know about that, we've been trying to solve natural language as an interface to computing for like 30 years or more.

OpenAI is just the first case where this is so good it's viable and lo and behold it took off like fire.

That is a well defined established problem that anyone paying attention said there was money in.

I was trying to get seq2seq networks to take english and generate API calls all the way back in 2016.

1letterunixname · 3 years ago
Survivor bias. You can have enough money, time, and talent to tackle a category without a precise milestone plan, but it's not the wisest move if you're struggling to stay alive. "Build a survivable business first" should be the general rule.

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dekhn · 3 years ago
It might be my imagination, but it seems like the team over there has some smart people but they happened to hit the ML lottery at the right time, really don't have a clue about business, and now they have to scramble to top what they did before. Brockman and a few of the ML researchers are definitely good at what they do. I don't see the company itself really turning into something profitable when faced with sustained competition.
sebzim4500 · 3 years ago
What do you base this on exactly? At the time of the GPT-3.5 release, they didn't really have much technology-wise that every other tech company didn't have. And yet OpenAI is the only one to have released a useful product.
dekhn · 3 years ago
I base it on sevearl things- I worked at Google on TPUs and regularly saw google training so I would expect they likely have GPT-4 parity or better internally but can't figure out how to productize it.

I was also an evaluator for Google Ventures, which meant I'd go look at all the details in a startup and decide if it made sense to invest. I've seen many companies with similar splashy hype who failed to reach orbit.