I've been using Hetzner servers for ~15 years with multiple clients and employers, and always been disappointed with other providers compared to what Hetzner delivers. OVH with their frequent network level outages, the 2021 fire and so on. DigitalOcean with their way too frequent and long lasting maintenance windows. And AWS/GCP/Azure with their obscene pricing, ridiculous SLA and occasional hour-lasting outages. One application platform I managed was migrated from DO to Hetzner with huge cost savings, much better uptime and insanely much higher performance running on bare metal servers rather than cheapo VMs. If you need more than two vCPUs and a few gigs of RAM, I see absolutely no reason to use overpriced AWS/GCP/Azure VMs.
While I like Hetzner a lot and can share your recommendations, I just don't see how it compares to full-blown cloud providers like AWS, GCP or Azure. It's a common misconception to put them at the same level when the offering is completely different.
Nobody seriously uses AWS/GCP/Azure to have a couple VMs or dedicated servers alone. If someone can run their full workload in e.g. Hetzner without much hassle then they shouldn't be using any of the other cloud platforms in the first place as they'd be definitely overpaying.
EDIT: I want to clarify that I unfortunately do know some companies use the big 3 as simple VPS providers but it seems that everybody agree here that it's a waste of money and that's one of my main points, which is also why the comparison of the big ones vs Hetzner or any other standalone VPS/dedicated server provider is pointless as they serve different use cases.
> Nobody seriously uses AWS/GCP/Azure to have a couple VMs or dedicated servers alone.
Most of my clients do just that - just EC2 on AWS.
Ofcourse, my experience may not represent average case, but it is certainly not "nobody". I believe that most do it because AWS/Azure is the "safe option".
Choosing AWS/Azure is the modern version of "Nobody ever gets fired for buying IBM".
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I just recently tried Hertzner myself and I love the experience for now. I am aware that I am comparing apples and oranges here but; Hertzners UI is just so fast and simple compared to AWS and the pricing is great. Even their invoices are clean and understandable.
It's not just companies using the big 3 as simple VPS providers. A lot of applications are also hugely over-engineered for their actual needs, and unnecessarily ties themselves to the proprietary cloud APIs just for the sake of IAC or just for the sake of the simplicity of having the whole infrastructure at one provider. Or for the sake of using Kubernetes, for which I guess 1/10 of use cases are actually appropriate. I guess part of the problem is that using Big Cloud Provider X is the default in a lot of companies, and alternatives are not even being considered when starting out a new project.
> Nobody seriously uses AWS/GCP/Azure to have a couple VMs or dedicated servers alone.
Hmm, anything that doesn't have insanely huge traffic and requirements does, and in those cases the major cloud vendors are still cheap and easy enough for those use cases.
Hetzner seems to fit the "not big enough to get major discounts and support but large enough to have considerable cloud bills" customer and that is fine.
> Nobody seriously uses AWS/GCP/Azure to have a couple VMs or dedicated servers alone.
Many companies and people do host loads that would be better served on dedicated hardware on EC2 because "cloud".
> Hetzner without much hassle then they shouldn't be using any of the other cloud platforms in the first place as they'd be definitely overpaying.
The ability to provision, de-provision, clone, load balance and manage without talking to people, waiting for hardware or really even having to understand in detail what is going on (yes this is bad, but still... ) is one of the big reasons cloud is popular. Many dedicated hosts have gotten a lot better in this area.
>"Nobody seriously uses AWS/GCP/Azure to have a couple VMs or dedicated servers alone"
It actually does happen. They build some software, deploy it on VM and have said software use cloudy database service that removes a headache of maintaining backups, standby, point in time recovery, secure data at rest.
I have couple of shell scripts that do all of that and use Hetzner but I can imaging some org with enough money to not care about the price for convenience of somebody else taking care of your data.
The first time I saw Hetzner's pricing - I assumed it must've been a scam - since it seemed like such an incredible deal, and yet I hadn't heard of a single person that ever used it.
Glad that I'm regularly seeing how awesome this company is lately.
I've been using Hetzner for many years. I've had a couple maintenances on baremetal servers over the last several years. Otherwise, the only down time has been self inflicted.
Hetzner is not on the level of the any you mentioned. It's dirt cheap because latencies and protections against exploits are non-existent, sure it serves good when you don't have such needs but the moment you need any (i.e. DDoS protection and low/stable ms for game servers) - hetzner is out of the window.
- Someone that used to fry lil hetzner servers for fun
Not my experience at all. Hetzner obviously does offer DDoS protection and responds quickly to that kind of issues. I've also had Hetzner techs proactively contact me regarding attacks on our infrastructure (none of which actually took any of our servers down, by the way). For specialized needs, you can even have your own hardware installed next by your servers in the same rack for a relatively small premium.
I agree with your judgement on OVH and the top tier cloud providers. I've never used Hetzner but I've had good experieces with UpCloud, Vultr and Linode/Akamai. These three providers are my defacto goto everytime I need to deploy stuff...
I have been using Kimsufi servers (OVH cheap end) for more than 10 years and have not experienced any major outages (and can't remember even small ones).
I still have one dedicated server there. 14eur/mo for i5 750, 16gb ram and 2tb hdd seems quite good to me.
Not to mention their default DDoS protection by default. AWS DDoS team costs about $6000 last I checked here in hnews. Of course most corporation chose AWS because of permission management console.
I run a hosting company that has around 100 large dedicated servers at OVH. OVH's website sucks, but everything else is great-- outages are extremely rare in my experience, and their built-in DDoS protection is excellent. Also, OVH's Canada data center has great ping times from the US, whereas Hetzner's locations are in Europe.
The biggest issue I’ve had with providers like Digital Ocean is the networking speeds. 1 Gbps is just not enough especially when you need to restore a backup or similar.
Big Hetzner fan, but the EX101 does not feel like a good value compared to the AX101 that they've had for a while. Yes, the i9-13900 is faster than the 5950X, but does that justify half the RAM and half the disk?
Having half the RAM is caused by the fact that both Raptor Lake and Zen 4 are limited to 64 GB of DDR5-4800, unlike the older CPUs (e.g. 5950X) that used DDR4-3200 memory.
Increasing the memory to 128 GB, i.e. to two DIMMs per channel, drops the memory speed, more severely for AMD (DDR5-3600) than for Intel (DDR5-4400).
Overclocking the memory, like in gaming computers, would be unacceptable in server computers.
I rent one AX101 and it has been extremely good value. The thing is so cheap and fast.
However my first one did often reboot randomly and the support wasn’t very helpful. They told me to just rent another one, which I did. The second one rebooted randomly once in about a year. I guess the first one went on auction and still happily reboots.
Hetzner feels like a hard discount cloud provider. I still prefer them over AWS or Azure for non critical workloads that have a little budget.
The biggest catch is that you're getting more desktop-grade hardware than server-grade (notice Intel's i series instead of Xeon, non-ECC RAM). Doesn't make a lot of difference for the vast majority of use cases, but something to keep in mind.
You can get server-grade hardware from them, but then the pricing difference isn't so significant when compared to other providers.
SoYouStart (which is OVH) have a Singapore region, they also have an "Asia" region, but I don't know where precisely that is located - https://www.soyoustart.com/asia/
We use a mix of SYS and Hetzner here and have found them both to be excellent and very comparable.
The catch is they lack enterprise features. No PCI DSS, not more than 25(?!) Servers per Network etc.
Sure you can workaround these limitations, but thats the catch.
I think what Hetzner have done is just specialise in doing one thing really really well and that is their product, they run servers. They don’t offer any of the „cloudy“ vendor lock in things like functions, DBaaS, blah blah but if you want to run a server (VM or BM) they have quite a solid offering. I really like them and use their products in lots of my projects.
To me, there kind of isn't one. I have generally had very good and fast support, even on the auction servers (which are even wilder in terms of pricing than the ones linked -- e.g., I was paying like 40 euros a month for 40TB storage + a modern i7 and 64GB RAM).
The real 'catch' is the more limited offerings; it isn't the kind of one-stop-shop that AWS is where you can rent 8x A100s in a dozen datacenters while having them manage your database and a billion other things.
But if you just need lots of CPU, memory or storage, don't want to pay exorbitant bandwidth fees, and Europe is fine, they are pretty great.
> It seems like Hetzner is the only company in the world offering these kind of priced, right?
OVH is not quite as cheap, generally, but they have lots of inexpensive offerings, especially on their SoYouStart/Kimsufi lines [1], with much more variety in terms of datacenters, including Singapore and Australia, depending on what you need in Asia/APAC -- likely better DDoS mitigation than Hetzner as well.
LeaseWeb can be really cheap as well. Their public pricing on the main website can appear kind of expensive, or at least not Hetzner-tier cheap, but if you're ordering a decent number of servers, they seem to offer great volume discounts.
For example, through a reseller [2], I've got 100TB of their "premium" bandwidth @ 10Gbps, Xeon E-2274G, 64GB RAM, 4x8TB hard drives, and a 1TB NVMe SSD in Amsterdam that I use as a seedbox for like 60 euros.
Another semi-low-cost provider, depending on what you need, in Asia that is worth mentioning is Tempest.
I believe they are owned by Path.net, and they've so they've got better DDoS mitigation than most other providers without costing an arm and a leg; in Tokyo, $140 will get you an E3 1240v2 + 16GB RAM and $200 will get you a Ryzen 3600X + 32GB RAM, both servers are 10Gbps unmetered.
Not a great option for someone who needs a ton of variety in their hardware, but if you need something high-bandwidth with decent specs in Asia, it's not awful.
[1]: Worth noting that, although unmetered, SYS is generally limited to something like 250Mbps speeds, and Kimsufi is 100Mbps. You do get lucky occasionally and sometimes your server magically has uncapped gigabit, but for guaranteed high-bandwidth servers, the main OVH site is the only option.
[2]: I'm using Andy10gbit, who is fine for my needs - e.g., I don't need to reinstall the OS 24/7 or have instant support since it's just used for torrents. It'd be a bad option for a business, though, since I wouldn't want to be relying on some dude on Reddit if something goes horrifically wrong. WalkerServers is another example of one of the ultra-cheap LeaseWeb resellers.
I have been working in the industry since 20 years and i have not a single bad word to loose about Hetzner.
Their Service has always been impeccable and their servers just run.
I have been running k8s clusters on hetzner for quite some time now and the flexibility for the price is exactly what i expect from a hoster!
Now with this addition Hetzner closes another gap that made projects spends thousands more on enterprise clouds. So im not only happy but also proud that they just keep innovating!
Not my experience. Hetzner is really a discount provider, though they may have gotten better.
I used to work for a team that rented dozens of servers from them and we had disk failures almost every other week, which required creating a support ticket and asking them to swap out the drive so we could rebuild the RAID array.
They used regular SATA consumer drives and they were probably pretty old or refurbished or something.
I heard the devops guys at a previous job wrote a script to detect CPU fan failures. Then got asked to stop sending so many emails about CPU fan failures. Was still worth it because it's cheap, but they're cheap because it's not new and reliable hardware.
Maybe he detected 0 RPM without looking at temperature.... some controllers will just stop fans when there is enough cooling.
We had a bunch of racks and fan failures gotta be one of rarest one. Even on my personal junk I had zero actual failures, just one getting noisy
> Was still worth it because it's cheap, but they're cheap because it's not new and reliable hardware.
Not really different than cloud, they aren't buying top of the line servers, they are making their own just like hetzner, for cheapest per performance unit.
> I have been working in the industry since 20 years and i have not a single bad word to loose about Hetzner.
I use them, and I've been very happy with both pricing, reliability and the service.
Only possible bad thing to say about them: their static IP's aren't always "clean": I had a couple of instances where the IP I was allocated was blacklisted and it took some back and forth with their customer service to fix the problem (got a new IP).
But other than that quality / price ratio is way higher than GCP, AWS and their ilk.
I also use OVH, they're pretty decent as well, in the same ballpark as Hetzner.
> their static IP's aren't always "clean": I had a couple of instances where the IP I was allocated was blacklisted and it took some back and forth with their customer service to fix the problem (got a new IP).
Isn't that a problem you're always going to get with $any provider? You never know who previously owned that IP and what they did with it.
im an ovh customer too, mainly for their exchange offering. I disagree that they are on the same level as hetzner as support often doesnt know what their are doing and half their tools are broken.
For instance i was trying to migrate a large exchange group off to office 365 recently and their migration assistant simply has not been updated to support modern auth for office 365 amongst other things.
Also the migration failed from their own accounts for some reason....
As for the dirty ips: yes that happens but its not really hetzners fault, as the ip you had assigned had been taken away from the "bad actor" prior. If you tell that to your support agent, i have gotten a new one without a problem
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Ironically, not i cant even list my exchange accounts in ovh. it just keeps on loading and loading
You must be really lucky then :) My experience from ~2006 to 2014/15 (on and off, different companies, many different servers) was mostly bad, literal "you get what you pay for", with disks in dedicated servers dying left and right.
I've only become a customer again since their vps cloud offering and I've actually been recommending that because it has been flawless for me for years.
and you must be a customer of the server auctions :D
No but i get it, but i had a lot of failures in general with spinning disks. I think it has to do that SSDs and NVMEs are much better at telling you how much juice they got left in them. I don't neccesairily think its a problem of hetzner alone though, as disks on other hosters have failed too for me.
I also used to maintain a couple of "plain old offices" and Hard disk failure is sadly just all around us, when you are using bare metal.
both actually! it depends on what kind of workload you are running but for any kind of web application that "just" wants high availability the VMs are more than enough.
They do provide a csi driver for kubernetes for their blockstorage and private networking for both too.
you can even have the masters of VMS and the nodes on bare metal
I also had problems with Hetzner hardware ~10 years ago, as in servers randomly freezing due to CPU bugs. But in the past few years I haven't encountered problems at all. I have two dedicated servers for running CPU-intensive CI/CD workloads and for the past few years they've run smoothly.
Recently moved some workloads from GCP to a dedicated Hetzner box with 12900k, 128GB ram and 2TB NVME raid. This thing SCREAMS, running e.g Postgres with the same capacity in GCP would probbably cost > $1k/mo. Hetzner takes around 120 EUR.
Also the bandwidht is like 10x cheaper with much larger free tier.
The downside is your neighbours also having unlimited bandwidth. We had to rebuild one Citrix environment to a different (identical) box, because the first was in a network segment with terrible network performance.
If you pull a short straw, your box will be sharing bandwidth with a few bittorrent seed boxes or someone’s video CDN node
I think most times the horror stories and complexities of DevOps from the past (which likely paved the path for convenient cloud providers) is what keeps people away from running their own servers.
That being said, I run much smaller projects and servers and have not worked at a scale that really requires heavy workloads that generates thousands of monthly bills at GCP.
So I think most devs being conditioned to start their first projects on the free-tiers of most cloud providers makes it really difficult for them to move to their own servers when they need it.
Absolutely. I'm pretty new to infra and I learned in our big company AWS environment. I've dabbled a bit with home servers and stuff but I have no idea how to manage a bare metal host "properly".
There's a great YouTube tour of one of their data centres here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eo8nz_niiM 'Over 200,000 Servers in One Place! Visiting Hetzner in Falkenstein (Germany)'
Another good low cost provider to consider is WholeSaleInternet.net. Their datacenter is located in Kansas City. I've been colocating and renting dedicated servers through them for since 2005.
Servers start at $9 per-month. A comparable example:
I'm colocating a couple of servers there for $40 per-month each, bandwith is 1Gbit unmetered and comes with 5ip's. A couple 1U's and towers. I recently bought a used 1U server off Amazon for $400. It has 48 cores, 96 GB memory and 4x1TB drives and came with a one year warranty on the components.
Hetzner was solid, but their network was sketchy at times.
I live in NJ, so I usually preconfigured my equipment and ship it. I've also sent them bare servers and had them connect a KVM for me to do the setup remotely. They have common replacement parts on hand, I've bought some memory sticks from them and had them swap.
You can check back, they update the list at server availability changes. Other providers there are Dedispec and Joesdatacenter, may have something in stock you're looking for.
I checked with them and they said they only do full rack colo and perhaps you are going through a reseller. Is that the case and if so can you provide details? I'm interested.
I'm currently doing individual COLO (I don't have a rack atm). But I haven't added any space in three years. I've replaced some older equipment, but that's about it. I've been talking with another customer about splitting a rack ($200 each) as I'm spending spending $270 for 6 COLO servers ($240 for the space and $5x6 for additional IP space per-server).
joesdatacenter.com (Kansas City) has single server COLO for $50 a month.
Does anyone know of a managed postgres service that happens to use Hetzner? I'm running my own PG instances on Hetzner, but getting tired of managing it myself.
Going with a 3rd party makes me worried about latency (currently it's like 1-4ms...I'd rather not increase that to 50ms for a service located somewhere else).
Haven't found anything by Googling, so was wondering if anyone here works somewhere that does this.
Just an idea like that : deploying a quick k3s/k3d with a PostgreSQL operator like CloudNativePG might help you to take away some of the maintenance overload.
We maintain a contract with RedPill/Linpro for managing a DB cluster on Hetzner. When we ordered it it was cheaper to use Linpro + Hetzner than hosting the DB on Digital Ocean...
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Nobody seriously uses AWS/GCP/Azure to have a couple VMs or dedicated servers alone. If someone can run their full workload in e.g. Hetzner without much hassle then they shouldn't be using any of the other cloud platforms in the first place as they'd be definitely overpaying.
EDIT: I want to clarify that I unfortunately do know some companies use the big 3 as simple VPS providers but it seems that everybody agree here that it's a waste of money and that's one of my main points, which is also why the comparison of the big ones vs Hetzner or any other standalone VPS/dedicated server provider is pointless as they serve different use cases.
I think you're seriously underestimating the amount of cloud customers that do a simple lift and shift.
Most of my clients do just that - just EC2 on AWS. Ofcourse, my experience may not represent average case, but it is certainly not "nobody". I believe that most do it because AWS/Azure is the "safe option".
Choosing AWS/Azure is the modern version of "Nobody ever gets fired for buying IBM".
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I just recently tried Hertzner myself and I love the experience for now. I am aware that I am comparing apples and oranges here but; Hertzners UI is just so fast and simple compared to AWS and the pricing is great. Even their invoices are clean and understandable.
Hmm, anything that doesn't have insanely huge traffic and requirements does, and in those cases the major cloud vendors are still cheap and easy enough for those use cases.
Hetzner seems to fit the "not big enough to get major discounts and support but large enough to have considerable cloud bills" customer and that is fine.
Many companies and people do host loads that would be better served on dedicated hardware on EC2 because "cloud".
> Hetzner without much hassle then they shouldn't be using any of the other cloud platforms in the first place as they'd be definitely overpaying.
The ability to provision, de-provision, clone, load balance and manage without talking to people, waiting for hardware or really even having to understand in detail what is going on (yes this is bad, but still... ) is one of the big reasons cloud is popular. Many dedicated hosts have gotten a lot better in this area.
It actually does happen. They build some software, deploy it on VM and have said software use cloudy database service that removes a headache of maintaining backups, standby, point in time recovery, secure data at rest.
I have couple of shell scripts that do all of that and use Hetzner but I can imaging some org with enough money to not care about the price for convenience of somebody else taking care of your data.
Glad that I'm regularly seeing how awesome this company is lately.
- Someone that used to fry lil hetzner servers for fun
- EX44: Intel Core i5-13500 / 64 GB / 2x512 GB NVMe - From 44€ [2]
- EX101: Intel Core i9-13900 / 64 GB / 2x1.92 TB NVMe - From 84€ [3]
[1] https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ax52
[2] https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ex44
[3] https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ex101
- EX101: Intel Core i9-13900 / 64 GB / 2x1.92 TB NVMe - From €84
- AX101: AMD Ryzen™ 9 5950X / 128GB / 2x3.84 TB NVMe - From €101
Increasing the memory to 128 GB, i.e. to two DIMMs per channel, drops the memory speed, more severely for AMD (DDR5-3600) than for Intel (DDR5-4400).
Overclocking the memory, like in gaming computers, would be unacceptable in server computers.
However my first one did often reboot randomly and the support wasn’t very helpful. They told me to just rent another one, which I did. The second one rebooted randomly once in about a year. I guess the first one went on auction and still happily reboots.
Hetzner feels like a hard discount cloud provider. I still prefer them over AWS or Azure for non critical workloads that have a little budget.
It seems like Hetzner is the only company in the world offering these kind of prices, right? What's the catch?
You can get server-grade hardware from them, but then the pricing difference isn't so significant when compared to other providers.
We use a mix of SYS and Hetzner here and have found them both to be excellent and very comparable.
To me, there kind of isn't one. I have generally had very good and fast support, even on the auction servers (which are even wilder in terms of pricing than the ones linked -- e.g., I was paying like 40 euros a month for 40TB storage + a modern i7 and 64GB RAM).
The real 'catch' is the more limited offerings; it isn't the kind of one-stop-shop that AWS is where you can rent 8x A100s in a dozen datacenters while having them manage your database and a billion other things.
But if you just need lots of CPU, memory or storage, don't want to pay exorbitant bandwidth fees, and Europe is fine, they are pretty great.
> It seems like Hetzner is the only company in the world offering these kind of priced, right?
OVH is not quite as cheap, generally, but they have lots of inexpensive offerings, especially on their SoYouStart/Kimsufi lines [1], with much more variety in terms of datacenters, including Singapore and Australia, depending on what you need in Asia/APAC -- likely better DDoS mitigation than Hetzner as well.
LeaseWeb can be really cheap as well. Their public pricing on the main website can appear kind of expensive, or at least not Hetzner-tier cheap, but if you're ordering a decent number of servers, they seem to offer great volume discounts.
For example, through a reseller [2], I've got 100TB of their "premium" bandwidth @ 10Gbps, Xeon E-2274G, 64GB RAM, 4x8TB hard drives, and a 1TB NVMe SSD in Amsterdam that I use as a seedbox for like 60 euros.
Another semi-low-cost provider, depending on what you need, in Asia that is worth mentioning is Tempest.
I believe they are owned by Path.net, and they've so they've got better DDoS mitigation than most other providers without costing an arm and a leg; in Tokyo, $140 will get you an E3 1240v2 + 16GB RAM and $200 will get you a Ryzen 3600X + 32GB RAM, both servers are 10Gbps unmetered.
Not a great option for someone who needs a ton of variety in their hardware, but if you need something high-bandwidth with decent specs in Asia, it's not awful.
[1]: Worth noting that, although unmetered, SYS is generally limited to something like 250Mbps speeds, and Kimsufi is 100Mbps. You do get lucky occasionally and sometimes your server magically has uncapped gigabit, but for guaranteed high-bandwidth servers, the main OVH site is the only option.
[2]: I'm using Andy10gbit, who is fine for my needs - e.g., I don't need to reinstall the OS 24/7 or have instant support since it's just used for torrents. It'd be a bad option for a business, though, since I wouldn't want to be relying on some dude on Reddit if something goes horrifically wrong. WalkerServers is another example of one of the ultra-cheap LeaseWeb resellers.
Their Service has always been impeccable and their servers just run.
I have been running k8s clusters on hetzner for quite some time now and the flexibility for the price is exactly what i expect from a hoster!
Now with this addition Hetzner closes another gap that made projects spends thousands more on enterprise clouds. So im not only happy but also proud that they just keep innovating!
I used to work for a team that rented dozens of servers from them and we had disk failures almost every other week, which required creating a support ticket and asking them to swap out the drive so we could rebuild the RAID array.
They used regular SATA consumer drives and they were probably pretty old or refurbished or something.
I've been very happy with Hetzner for some workloads.
So I guess you can blame your own team for ordering consumer sata?
We had a bunch of racks and fan failures gotta be one of rarest one. Even on my personal junk I had zero actual failures, just one getting noisy
> Was still worth it because it's cheap, but they're cheap because it's not new and reliable hardware.
Not really different than cloud, they aren't buying top of the line servers, they are making their own just like hetzner, for cheapest per performance unit.
Even Herzner cloud just works and I don't know how they do it but it's dirt cheap.
I use them, and I've been very happy with both pricing, reliability and the service.
Only possible bad thing to say about them: their static IP's aren't always "clean": I had a couple of instances where the IP I was allocated was blacklisted and it took some back and forth with their customer service to fix the problem (got a new IP).
But other than that quality / price ratio is way higher than GCP, AWS and their ilk.
I also use OVH, they're pretty decent as well, in the same ballpark as Hetzner.
Isn't that a problem you're always going to get with $any provider? You never know who previously owned that IP and what they did with it.
For instance i was trying to migrate a large exchange group off to office 365 recently and their migration assistant simply has not been updated to support modern auth for office 365 amongst other things.
Also the migration failed from their own accounts for some reason....
As for the dirty ips: yes that happens but its not really hetzners fault, as the ip you had assigned had been taken away from the "bad actor" prior. If you tell that to your support agent, i have gotten a new one without a problem
EDIT: Ironically, not i cant even list my exchange accounts in ovh. it just keeps on loading and loading
I've only become a customer again since their vps cloud offering and I've actually been recommending that because it has been flawless for me for years.
No but i get it, but i had a lot of failures in general with spinning disks. I think it has to do that SSDs and NVMEs are much better at telling you how much juice they got left in them. I don't neccesairily think its a problem of hetzner alone though, as disks on other hosters have failed too for me.
I also used to maintain a couple of "plain old offices" and Hard disk failure is sadly just all around us, when you are using bare metal.
Another reason for kubernetes!
They do provide a csi driver for kubernetes for their blockstorage and private networking for both too.
you can even have the masters of VMS and the nodes on bare metal
Personally I only had some network issues with them.
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Hetzner bare metal have unlimited bandwidth.
If you pull a short straw, your box will be sharing bandwidth with a few bittorrent seed boxes or someone’s video CDN node
That being said, I run much smaller projects and servers and have not worked at a scale that really requires heavy workloads that generates thousands of monthly bills at GCP.
So I think most devs being conditioned to start their first projects on the free-tiers of most cloud providers makes it really difficult for them to move to their own servers when they need it.
https://www.hetzner.com/sb
For example, I was running some experiments that required lots of RAM. Right now you can get a server with 256GB RAM for €60/month.
https://til.simonwillison.net/llms/llama-7b-m2
The channel is well worth a subscribe too.
Servers start at $9 per-month. A comparable example:
Dual Xeons - 36 cores / 72 threads - 128GB memory - dual 1TB nvme - 5 IP's $80 per-month $0 setup. Setup with dual 2Tb nvme is $100 per-month.
I'm colocating a couple of servers there for $40 per-month each, bandwith is 1Gbit unmetered and comes with 5ip's. A couple 1U's and towers. I recently bought a used 1U server off Amazon for $400. It has 48 cores, 96 GB memory and 4x1TB drives and came with a one year warranty on the components.
Hetzner was solid, but their network was sketchy at times.
just clicked, unfortunately it is out of stock..
> I'm colocating a couple of servers there for $40 per-month each
are you living nearby? Or you sent them server and they installed it?
You can check back, they update the list at server availability changes. Other providers there are Dedispec and Joesdatacenter, may have something in stock you're looking for.
joesdatacenter.com (Kansas City) has single server COLO for $50 a month.
Haven't found anything by Googling, so was wondering if anyone here works somewhere that does this.