If we had honest labeling there would be a lot less milk and broth/stock on the grocery. I’m also suspicious that nearly all cereals aren’t cereals but some kind of corn byproduct
What do you mean? Milk is so cheap (relatively speaking) that it makes little sense to me that it would be "substituted" with something else. But maybe I'm out of the loop here
Is there any actual logic in this document that supports why producers of fortified almond juice can call their product Milk other than "some people call it milk already?"
If they were just labeling it "Milk" or mixing it into cow milk without letting anyone know, then I would be skeptical. But it's always labeled as just "Almond Milk." I don't think anyone will be confused there. We've always just called it that.
I can't think of any other logic necessary really. I mean, why do we call anything what we do? Other than, that's what everyone calls it. For instance, why can Milk producers call it just "Milk" and not "Cow Milk" as well? Because that's what everyone calls it!
Why wouldn't they be able to? A milk is just a consumable suspension. Look to milk of magnesia, milk of the poppy, etc. It has a long history of being used in a general sense.
Not quite, title is misleading. This is not a regulation, nor a proposal for a regulation, it is only FDA guidance for labeling. Specifically a draft seeking comment.
Not for implementation. Contains non-binding recommendations.
This guidance is being distributed for comment purposes only.
Putting semantics and science aside, this is only a small fragment of the regulatory process and it could be a decade before anything is officially decided.
The same is true for butter, yet nobody has any qualms about "peanut butter" not being made of dairy products. The term "oat milk" is clear. It is made of oats and resembles milk.
They already label it oat milk. Am I missing something? I just don't want to buy plain "milk," or something advertised to contain it, that turns out to be some substitute.
According to Wikipedia, "milk" is an ambiguous word referring to over a dozen different "drinkable fluids". Also a drag queen and a Dragon Ball character.
Yeah, I was digging through the history on the Wikipedia article. I kept wondering why there were no links to milk substitutes. But I don't see any edit wars or anything. It was just never there in the past couple years. Wikipedia is an okay source of information, but it tends to be incomplete.
The guidelines are not that oat milk can be called “milk”, but rather that it is ok to use the word “milk” preceded by “oat” to label oat beverage.
Submitters: "Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize."
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Also milk of magnesia and similar substances.
Is there any actual logic in this document that supports why producers of fortified almond juice can call their product Milk other than "some people call it milk already?"
I can't think of any other logic necessary really. I mean, why do we call anything what we do? Other than, that's what everyone calls it. For instance, why can Milk producers call it just "Milk" and not "Cow Milk" as well? Because that's what everyone calls it!
Not for implementation. Contains non-binding recommendations.
This guidance is being distributed for comment purposes only.
Putting semantics and science aside, this is only a small fragment of the regulatory process and it could be a decade before anything is officially decided.
* Orange Crush
* Orange Fanta
* Sunkist Orange Soda
Seems only right given how great they're doing with the American diet and obesity.
But I guess it's "good" calories or something.
Isn't it a more reasonable outcome to start labelling "milk" as "cow's milk"?
Unless there is another definition somewhere it would seem to me it should have it's own label sh it's clear to people a is different from b.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_(disambiguation)
I think wikipedia should be updated to reflect what people are doing, instead of some narrow definition?