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nunobrito · 3 years ago
I've tested the same video search from a twitter account in Portugal and confirm the same (zero) results. My country lived through a dictatorship not long ago where someone in power decided what citizens could read or not, for "our own good" of course.

To whoever supports this censoring: please remember to remain consistent when these platforms start to shadowban you.

raxxorraxor · 3 years ago
I don't think Italy made a good choice here although I don't know the details. But just like Twitter I just don't know and people have a right to know or learn why she may be a bad choice. The recent strategy of large tech corporations is devastatingly bad, clearly demonstrating their inability to vet and validate content. The people that expect that to do just that are just as much a problem as Twitter itself is here.

Censoring these voices will not help, it will not make their ideas or wants to go away. On the contrary, any differences will become insurmountable.

> please remember to remain consistent when these platforms start to shadowban you.

The people supporting this deserve far more condemnation. They should know better and if they do not they are incapable to make such decisions in the first place. Far more likely is that they plainly spread US propaganda.

MiguelX413 · 3 years ago
Luckily they can't ban me, because I don't rely on their platforms. Viva el Fediverse!
dethos · 3 years ago
..."you" or the people you agree with.
guywithahat · 3 years ago
Never thought I'd see a daily wire article here.

The unfortunate bit is what'll happen is twitter will go "oops we made a mistake", but never acknowledge why this happened in the first place (which is likely because they were doing something nefarious to her ranking on twitter).

miguelazo · 3 years ago
Of course it was intentional-- Twitter and the rest of the social media companies are infested with former (if not current) spooks, many hired for precisely this sort of work -- "content moderation" policy. Meloni is viewed as not "reliable" for pursuing the proxy war against Russia. (https://www.mintpressnews.com/how-the-cia-has-infiltrated-so...)
wellthatsawrap1 · 3 years ago
Not sure why you are being downvoted. These are facts that came out in the whole Musk/Nudge fiasco. Everyone watches the matrix and thinks they are Neo, when infact, they are the f*ing battery.
moralestapia · 3 years ago
The only thing I'd like to see out of the whole Musk-Twitter affair is some transparency on how they actually "rank" things on their site. And I'm sure there's a lot of mud in there.
yrgulation · 3 years ago
She hasnt even started as a pm yet the eu issued warnings. Apparently Ursula “has tools”. You can’t make this shit up.
mark_l_watson · 3 years ago
+1 I was also shocked to hear in a news conference the EU president Ursula von der Leyen threaten the Italian voters right before the election. Seriously, I was shocked. So much for believing in democracy.

I am very liberal politically, but I 100% support people on the right wing who run into trouble with the Neoliberal overlords.

We need to have respect for all people's opinions (that are non-violent, etc.) and support all people's rights to vote as they wish. I think the Neoliberals must envy China's authoritarian control of their population, because that is what I think the Neoliberals want also.

BTW, I joined the World Economic Forum for a while just to read directly what they were up to.

yrgulation · 3 years ago
Likewise, left leaning and i find it shocking. And as much as i want to not criticise the eu and its politics i simply can’t. Always sanctions and threats what happened to cooperation and mutual understanding?
systemvoltage · 3 years ago
Another problem is the term Fascism that's been thrown around willy-nilly. I think next time one uses the term, it is probably worth looking up what Fascism really looks like.
arinlen · 3 years ago
> +1 I was also shocked to hear in a news conference the EU president Ursula von der Leyen threaten the Italian voters right before the election.

This is the very first time I've heard such a thing. Do you have a source showcasing what you claim to be threats?

stjohnswarts · 3 years ago
She's bad for italy but shouldn't be banned on twitter as she hasn't actually done anything yet. That will likely be forthcoming in the coming months. You really should take a look at her party's history. She's a lot like trump. A bit moderate-rightish but she prefers strongmen type leaders like Putin and Berlesconi, which I think speaks for her future plans as to how government "should be run"
yrgulation · 3 years ago
My point is that we should respect the people of italy and their choice. We should do the same for hungary and poland. Sanctions and threats polarise voters or may even help their cause.

Maybe there is a third option, other than appeasement or threats. Maybe we can try and understand why people of now a third eu member state chose such a political leader.

thehappypm · 3 years ago
“Bad for Italy” meaning what exactly? She won fair and square.
wesapien · 3 years ago
I was talking to some the other day about why a certain city which has so many minorities vote conservative. Its funny how these celebrate diversity but the moment they vote conservative they lose the ingroup status of minority. The only concern is surface level diversity. True diversity is having some progressive and some conservative thought.
wellthatsawrap1 · 3 years ago
Because Biden's and his handlers approach is so much better. Things are great, everything is progressing so well, the morons currently in power have us on the brink of WW3. I'm begining to think that HN has the same bot count as twitter.
cplusplusfellow · 3 years ago
Can you elaborate on how “strongmen type leaders” differs from the behavior patterns of so many of our worlds leaders during and after the pandemic?
Sunspark · 3 years ago
The people who make these decisions, who are the ones signing off on this sort of thing?

Somehow I doubt this went to the board of directors level to ask if they have sign-off on low-key blocking a head of state in a market publicly-traded Twitter Inc. is active in.

akomtu · 3 years ago
It's a VP level thing. Some lowly offshore "content watcher" flags suspicious posts, the important flags bubble up in a email chain to a VP, who makes the decision. That's for high visibility dissenters. This email chain is discoverable if anyone bothers to sue and convince the judge.
epivosism · 3 years ago
In the leaked Elon texts, there were mentions of a suspected cabal that would keep these kind of decisions from the board. So I'm not so sure that leaders trust their own censorship orgs to do the right thing.
Arnt · 3 years ago
Or ML.

If a user/keyword/whatever gets negative karma because previously-blocked nazis fawn over it, newly posted Giorgia Meloni videos will carry a heavy burden, even if that particular video isn't anything to complain about. The ML will guess that the nazis are going to like it, and load the new videos with negative karma.

diebeforei485 · 3 years ago
As always, the "mistakes" are always in the same direction.
sn0w_crash · 3 years ago
YouTube took down her videos then apologized and reinstated them.

This is the democratically elected head of a state. Their first female PM.

andirk · 3 years ago
In the eyes of the neoliberal, you're only supposed to use identity politics to attack your enemy, not as a means of stating basic facts such as she's Italy's first female PM.
jbrr · 3 years ago
Does criticizing someone because they’re a fascist count as identity politics these days?
andijcr · 3 years ago
nit: she is the head of the party that received most votes. She will probably be prime minister, but for now no government was proposed to the president, even the new parliament will not start for another week
UncleMeat · 3 years ago
Is her gender supposed to make her bigoted beliefs somehow less objectionable and terrifying?
stefantalpalaru · 3 years ago
> This is the democratically elected head of a state.

No, just a democratically elected member of Parliament. The head of state is the president, elected by the Parliament. That president picks a prime minister which needs to be approved by the parliament.

> Their first female PM.

Not yet. The Italian president has yet to name a PM candidate.

sn0w_crash · 3 years ago
This is the personification of the “ackchyually” meme

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/021/665/DpQ...

Dead Comment

Jackpillar · 3 years ago
Daily Wire and Hacker News - what an increasingly weird yet fitting combination.
Overtonwindow · 3 years ago
Twitter is becoming like the government: If they ban, censor, or try to censor something, you should definitely find out for yourself.

I’m sick and tired of companies “fact checking” and shadowbanning content for my “safety.”