Taiwan did better than just about everybody else without lockdowns.
Workplaces and schools stayed active.
The magic trick: universal masking.
Plus plastic partitions between people during mealtimes.
Plus putting up quarantined people in hotels where they received daily health worker visits, meals and a stipend.
In my hometown, I'm seeing workplace outbreaks exploding because infected workers are quarantined at home where their families get infected.
The other lockdown idiocy is confining people indoors when the safest place is outdoors (Crowded downtown sidewalks excepted where you really need to wear a wask).
I don’t know if masks are that effective. They’ve been ubiquitous here in SoCal for months and yet we’ve had some of the highest infection rates in the country. I suppose if everyone were using N95 masks that probably would have worked.
If you're wearing a close fitting mask properly and maintaining reasonable social distance, what transmission vector would there be such that they're ineffective? Fomites have been repeatedly rejected as a major vector so what's left?
The lockdowns didn't work because americans were involved and instead of staying home for 2 weeks got in their cars and stood on government steps with guns.
Clearly when the population realises that "muh freedom" isn't really a valid excuse and just stays put, it works fine (see: australia, new zealand)
False. The outbreaks did not coincide with those protests with guns. Would you blame the BLM protests which were far larger? The last and largest outbreak based on cases seemed to coincide with the holidays. Perhaps you should blame Dr. Fauci for telling people not to wear masks during the first outbreak?
At what cost? we've saved a few 80 year olds, but lost hundreds of younger people via suicide and created a huge long tail of mental health problems along with poor educational outcomes (Australian here).
Don’t try brush it off as a few 80 year olds. Over half a million people have needlessly died in the states. How’s the mental well being of those half a million families, how’s the mental well being of the millions more who were sick and thought they were going to die.
In my opinion if the lockdown has helped keeping the death ratio per 100000 person at around 1 as was the case for e.g. New Zeeland (if I recall correctly), then it's worth it - from the value of human life point of view. Then there are economic/capitalist point of views for which I don't care. Especially if the lockdown could save some loved ones. But this is just an opinion.
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Workplaces and schools stayed active.
The magic trick: universal masking.
Plus plastic partitions between people during mealtimes.
Plus putting up quarantined people in hotels where they received daily health worker visits, meals and a stipend.
In my hometown, I'm seeing workplace outbreaks exploding because infected workers are quarantined at home where their families get infected.
The other lockdown idiocy is confining people indoors when the safest place is outdoors (Crowded downtown sidewalks excepted where you really need to wear a wask).
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7010e3.htm
Maybe we wouldn't need lockdowns if everyone did wear their masks properly, so many COVID deniers out there.
There we plans and procedures in place, which were actively subverted by multiple levels of leadership, across the planet, for political reasons.
Clearly when the population realises that "muh freedom" isn't really a valid excuse and just stays put, it works fine (see: australia, new zealand)
https://www.aihw.gov.au/suicide-self-harm-monitoring/data/co...
In NSW suicide fell by 5% last year:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/dec/23/nsw-s...
There was also a dip in Victoria:
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/suicides-in-vict...
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