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benwerner01 · 6 years ago
Biologists reacting to a Whale Fall discovery: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZzQhiNQXxU
baxtr · 6 years ago
Odly, this reminded me of the classic honey badger video...

https://youtu.be/4r7wHMg5Yjg

aphroz · 6 years ago
I really loved hearing them talking in meters
dredmorbius · 6 years ago
But no rhyme.
zomglings · 6 years ago
Was fascinated by the bone eating worms and their symbiotic relationship with the bacteria that digest the fats and oils from bone.

Osedax: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osedax

Thanks for the video!

Sharlin · 6 years ago
Their excitement made me so happy!
jcims · 6 years ago
If you enjoy this at all, you may want to subscribe. The channel is always like this. Fantastic stuff.
mudita · 6 years ago
Yes! Something that touched me a lot was also that they showed excitement together with some very real competence and detailed knowledge.
FartyMcFarter · 6 years ago
I'm guessing you're not a whale?
MrJagil · 6 years ago
Tremendous. Are there any great deep sea docs out there?
throwaway894345 · 6 years ago
Blue Planet I and II are top quality.

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notRobot · 6 years ago
That was incredible! Thanks for sharing!
haukur · 6 years ago
While not exactly the same, the concept of "whale drift" has existed in Icelandic law [1] for almost 8 centuries, and still applies today. It specifies to whom a whale carcass would belong to, depending on the situation, and so forth. The concept of "whale drift" also exists in the Icelandic language, and is used to point out an event as a stroke of great luck.

[1] Hvalreki (whale drift) in Icelandic law, from Jónsbók in 1281: https://www.althingi.is/lagas/150b/1281000.401.html

BeeBoBub · 6 years ago
Whale fall described in chapter 81 of Moby Dick:

Now, this occasional inevitable sinking of the recently killed Sperm Whale is a very curious thing; nor has any fisherman yet adequately accounted for it. Usually the dead Sperm Whale floats with great buoyancy, with its side or belly considerably elevated above the surface. If the only whales that thus sank were old, meagre, and broken-hearted creatures, their pads of lard diminished and all their bones heavy and rheumatic; then you might with some reason assert that this sinking is caused by an uncommon specific gravity in the fish so sinking, consequent upon this absence of buoyant matter in him. But it is not so. For young whales, in the highest health, and swelling with noble aspirations, prematurely cut off in the warm flush and May of life, with all their panting lard about them; even these brawny, buoyant heroes do sometimes sink.

echelon · 6 years ago
It might be me personally, but I can't stand old, long-winded and effervescent writing. My eyes start to jump around in it, and I can't maintain focus. It makes me wonder how our writing and media will be perceived in a hundred or more years.

Entire patterns of thought become antiquated as our communication wiring adapts to the ever increasing pace of society. Social media is driving dopamine hits from shorter and shorter forms of engagement.

It's amusing to think that Harry Potter might one day read like an opaque relic.

0xddd · 6 years ago
> Entire patterns of thought become antiquated as our communication wiring adapts to the ever increasing pace of society. Social media is driving dopamine hits from shorter and shorter forms of engagement.

I think you are extrapolating a little too much from your personal experience. An obvious counterexample to our society trending to "shorter and shorter forms of engagement" is the rise of long-form podcasts and long-form independent reporting.

Plenty of people still enjoy literature and the way in which it can convey ideas that non-fiction does not. My impression is that you'd have the same reaction to more recent fiction by, say, Cormac McCarthy or David Foster Wallace. I'm not sure Harry Potter is exactly a fair comparison of a work that aims for the same register as Moby Dick. As far as I know, 19th century literature with a simpler prose style (for example Sherlock Holmes or Poe's short stories) is still entirely accessible to someone with basic reading comprehension.

PostOnce · 6 years ago
I think the opening paragraph of Moby Dick is one of the most memorable of all the novels I have read; I think it would be hard to drive home the emotion with the same gravity in fewer words, and I'll paste it here in case I can con someone else into reading it :)

> Call me Ishmael. Some years ago—never mind how long precisely—having little or no money in my purse, and nothing particular to interest me on shore, I thought I would sail about a little and see the watery part of the world. It is a way I have of driving off the spleen and regulating the circulation. Whenever I find myself growing grim about the mouth; whenever it is a damp, drizzly November in my soul; whenever I find myself involuntarily pausing before coffin warehouses, and bringing up the rear of every funeral I meet; and especially whenever my hypos get such an upper hand of me, that it requires a strong moral principle to prevent me from deliberately stepping into the street, and methodically knocking people’s hats off—then, I account it high time to get to sea as soon as I can. This is my substitute for pistol and ball. With a philosophical flourish Cato throws himself upon his sword; I quietly take to the ship. There is nothing surprising in this. If they but knew it, almost all men in their degree, some time or other, cherish very nearly the same feelings towards the ocean with me.

hprotagonist · 6 years ago
don’t go online for a week and try again.

your brain will click right in.

hpliferaft · 6 years ago
I tried reading Moby Dick several times and gave up because I felt a similar reaction to the prose. I finally opted for an audiobook version that was reviewed well for its lively narration. I loved it and subsequently bought a copy to reread certain passages. It's really a great example of literary engineering.
isoprophlex · 6 years ago
Whoa, apparently they are rather important for carbon sequestration!

See the section on the impact of whaling:

> However, it is suggested that the removal of large whales might have reduced the total biomass of the deep sea by more than 30%.[24] Whales stored massive amounts of carbon that were exported to the deep sea during whale fall events. Whaling has thus also reduced the ability of the deep sea to sequester carbon.[24]

EndXA · 6 years ago
I found this video for those who want a visual example of what this can look like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZzQhiNQXxU
alangibson · 6 years ago
The spacing of them and the specialization of scavengers is surprising.

When I woke up this morning, I had no idea that deep sea whale carcases would constitute an entire hidden global ecosystem, but that's just another day on HN I guess.

nck4222 · 6 years ago
I had the same thought, which made me think how little we know about the ecosystems on earth, which made me think it's even more important to protect the environment. We destroy things before we even know they exist.
steve_adams_86 · 6 years ago
I get conflicting thoughts about this. Sometimes I feel we must have killed countless deep sea dwelling species without ever seeing them. Then sometimes I'm amazed by the resilience and scale of the ocean and wonder if somehow, very few species have gone extinct because of us.

The sheer biomass we've removed from the ocean is staggering though, and the cascading effect on the deep sea ecosystems must be immense. There is so much less food to fall down there now.

meej · 6 years ago
tlavoie · 6 years ago
Nurse logs are awesome, and really highlight that circular nature of life.

I'm on the BC coast, with a few acres of mostly-forest, and have some examples of these right in the yard. Even the stumps of much larger trees logged long ago, support fair-sized younger trees today.

popol12 · 6 years ago
Funny, I watched an episode of « Our planet » called « Deep waters » yesterday that is quite related to this article. Life at these depths is really fascinating.
quickthrowman · 6 years ago
Also from the BBC/Attenborough, there’s an episode of Blue Planet II which shows a whale fall and the subsequent process of consumption by different species that follows.

I agree, it’s fascinating!