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beobab · 5 years ago
I can confirm anecdotally that having a baby crying at all hours of the day and the night also makes humans less interested.
throwaway9980 · 5 years ago
I can second this anecdata as extremely accurate. Actually I can second this anecdata three times. But never again, never again.
ashtonkem · 5 years ago
I feel like having repeat anecdotes in this area kind of undermines them.
DiabloD3 · 5 years ago
So when is kid #4 coming?
mikevm · 5 years ago
> The pheromone is called exocrine gland-secreting peptide 22 (ESP22), and researchers say it could one day be added to drinking water to control rodent populations.

Ugh... how about, no?

pvaldes · 5 years ago
They had in mind probably drinking water in mice cages or lab animal facilities. Reducing the male mice drive to fight would increase the wellbeing of the lab animals, thus could be useful in some cases. Human lab rats will not have typically a lot of sex in any case ;-) so...
sesuximo · 5 years ago
Couldn't that invalidate research results

Dead Comment

karaterobot · 5 years ago
I wonder what the role of this pheromone is in species where females can also get pregnant 24 hours after giving birth, and have 15 litters a year.

And how how effective is this pheromone at population control, in practice? The researcher quoted in the article says it might be useful in natural environments to keep resource competition and overpopulation down, but (anecdotally) I do not associate mice with conservation of resources and population control: they're infamous for devouring all available resources and breeding without any obvious signs of, umm, demureness.

Needless to say, I'm no biologist.

collyw · 5 years ago
I bet a human equivalent would sell well to fathers of teenage girls.
croissants · 5 years ago
The standard cultural joke that fathers are really into preventing their daughters (but not sons) from having sex is messed up.
chongli · 5 years ago
Due to their youth and inexperience, we generally try to shield teenagers from the most serious consequences of their actions. Unfortunately, we can't do this with the biological consequences of pregnancy. That's why it's natural to put more effort into preventing daughters from having sex.
karatestomp · 5 years ago
Parents of pregnant daughters are probably more likely to end up raising their grandkid than parents whose sons get others’ daughters pregnant. The various stressful situations and financial strain that result can wreck people.
im3w1l · 5 years ago
> preventing their daughters from having premarital sex

And it's because being a young single mom sucks.

globular-toast · 5 years ago
Sometimes you just have to accept that there is a reason why these "jokes" exist and, if you are interested in it, you should try to figure out why rather than fight against the accepted wisdom.
xenocyon · 5 years ago
Yes, it's a shame to see this kind of thing on HN. But perhaps I shouldn't be so surprised.
ben_w · 5 years ago
I suspect that will be counterproductive, yet sell well.

Anecdotally, about half the women I know have shared with me stories of men being various levels of inappropriate.

unixhero · 5 years ago
God this is awful. Tears of animals used to control populations of lab animals.

What is it with Hacker News and some fascination of this topic.

Here is from an earlier post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19867382 (possibly NSFL)

pvaldes · 5 years ago
It is assumed that they are trying to mass produce the peptid in a laboratory, not making the babies suffer. Wouldn't be animal tears anymore.

(I wonder of the mice could enter in a depressed state at a middle term by that. Not directly related, but most humans (visual animals) would get depressed, or emotionally touched at least, if forced to work in a room full of posters of crying children. Maybe mice would have developped a similar response with olfactive signals..)

unixhero · 5 years ago
Yes. I agree, and you're right of course.

My comment was meant more metaphorically, when it's synthesized. It's still a tragic example of how we humans shape the world. Now featuring synthetic tears! To me that is a little horrific.

867-5309 · 5 years ago
Why do mice have tears?
detaro · 5 years ago
Lubrication and cleaning, like all mammals.
867-5309 · 5 years ago
so unlike all mammals, not through crying due to pain or emotional response?
dempseye · 5 years ago
I wonder if there is a similar mechanism in humans.
limbicsystem · 5 years ago
throwaway0a5e · 5 years ago
I can't access the full study but I wonder what they did for control groups. I'd be very weary of a reverse Pavlov's dog type situation where people associate sniffing mystery liquids with leaking things and fixing those things which is not exactly a subject that puts people in the mood.
xkcd-sucks · 5 years ago
alfiedotwtf · 5 years ago
So this is how Children of Men becomes more of a documentary...
pgt · 5 years ago
There is an old army rumour that South African infantry men were fed copper sulphate ("blouvitrioel" in Afrikaans) to decrease their libido, but it's not true: https://samilhistory.com/2017/10/17/blue-stone-debunked/
bilekas · 5 years ago
Can't get enough of that picture in the article.