> “This issue relates to a particular aircraft which is not yet certified to operate to China but was unfortunately assigned to operate our Shanghai flight on Saturday night,” the spokesperson said.
You can believe them or not, but my experience has led me to believe nearly anyone over Stuff.
Talking about Taiwan, they're trying really hard to attract foreign talents. (one big reason is that China is poaching all the talents here, but this is an other story).
If you're interested, check their Gold Card Permit. It's a visa+redisent card allowing you to stay and work for anyone there up to 3years. The only requirement is to justify of a salary of 160k NTD/month(~USD 5210/month), anywhere in the world, if you don't earn that, try the skills application[1].
And about the article, they are now requesting feedbacks from the public for the next immigration bill [2], that will make even easier to apply fo the visa.
Doesn't matter. I work at a company that releases software there and we have to remove Taiwan as an option for a country when setting up your account or the product simply won't be allowed to be sold in China. Our personal views on the subject don't matter.
You don't "have to". You freely forfeited your beliefs for a sale.
Certainly lefty idealism but the West has a limited window of influence to improve how China projects its power.
23m Taiwanese people depend on somebody saying no. To ignore the PRCs demands. We've already let 13m Chinese Muslims get sent to concentration camps. We broadly ignored the incorporation of Tibet. Great Firewall, political incarceration, no problem, China, just keep making our stuff and investing.
Again, out window of opportunity to do something here is closing. Strong economic sanctions have to come quickly. But we also have to use every bit of defiance to resist behaviour that is clearly wrong.
There are things more important than money. Maybe the China market isn't worth sacrificing one's values for. It's not like they want to you to succeed in their market, anyway. And if the company is willing to sacrifice its values, then clearly those weren't its actual values.
We in the West should not tolerate this sort of behavior. I am sure if we wanted to we could force them not to do this by threatening them with sanctions on certain things.
I thought the solution is simple: just put China in brackets after Taiwan (China) and you should be fine? And don’t list them as “country”, use region instead!
i am doing passive aggressive approach, when i see mention of "mainland China" i fix it to "China" since i am not aware of any other China, so word "mainland" it's redundant
Yea nah. In theory I agree with you. In practice I don't believe Taiwan has much time left on the clock. My expectation is that sometime in the 2020s Taiwan will be Crimea'd.
> Chinese commanders fear they may be forced into armed contest with an enemy that is better trained, better motivated, and better prepared for the rigors of warfare than troops the PLA could throw against them. A cross-strait war looks far less like an inevitable victory for China than it does a staggeringly risky gamble.
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> Easton estimates that Taiwanese, American, and Japanese leaders will know that the PLA is preparing for a cross-strait war more than 60 days before hostilities begin. They will know for certain that an invasion will happen more than 30 days before the first missiles are fired. This will give the Taiwanese ample time to move much of their command and control infrastructure into hardened mountain tunnels, move their fleet out of vulnerable ports, detain suspected agents and intelligence operatives, litter the ocean with sea mines, disperse and camouflage army units across the country, put the economy on war footing, and distribute weapons to Taiwan’s 2.5 million reservists.
> There are only 13 beaches on Taiwan’s western coast that the PLA could possibly land at. Each of these has already been prepared for a potential conflict. Long underground tunnels—complete with hardened, subterranean supply depots—crisscross the landing sites. The berm of each beach has been covered with razor-leaf plants. Chemical treatment plants are common in many beach towns—meaning that invaders must prepare for the clouds of toxic gas any indiscriminate saturation bombing on their part will release. This is how things stand in times of peace.
1. Amphibious invasions are hard. The Taiwan Strait is nothing to sneeze at, especially for a military with no recent experience in conducting one like the PLA/N.
2. Taiwan has a far more economic impact upon the global economy than Ukraine. Other nations would be far more disturbed by the disruption of a first world economy, than a developing one like Ukraine’s. I don’t think we’ve seen the loss of as an economy as significant as Taiwan’s in recent history.
This kind of thing happens in a few places in the world.
If you go into Morocco with a map on your vehicle that shows Western Sahara as a separate country, you'll have a hell of a time with the Moroccan police/immigration. I met people that were detained for 5 hours because of it. Morocco want everyone in the world to believe Western Sahara is simply part of Morocco. I cut that part off my map before I got there.
I'm told same story for the border in the East between Egypt and Sudan. Egypt want you to believe it's a straight line, Sudan want you to believe it goes up a bit (making Sudan bigger). Again, I met people that had problems with this.
Taiwan (officially the Republic of China) don't agree that Taiwan is a real country either. The official position of the government of Taiwan is that all of China is one country, whose rightful government is currently based on the island of Taiwan, but whose land is 99% occupied by Maoist rebels.
"Admitting" Taiwan is a "real country" seems kind of sensible, but it's not compatible with the narrative of either the PRC or the ROC, and it's completely understandable that you shouldn't formally recognize as a nation anyone making such a ridiculous claim.
> The official position of the government of Taiwan is that all of China is one country, whose rightful government is currently based on the island of Taiwan, but whose land is 99% occupied by Maoist rebels.
> it's completely understandable that you shouldn't formally recognize as a nation anyone making such a ridiculous claim.
I've heard more ridiculous claims. As a matter of history, this is completely correct. It's just that the rebels have really entrenched themselves.
This position is fundamentally identical to the position of a king-in-exile. Sometimes they made it back home. Sometimes they didn't.
It is indeed a somewhat ridiculous claim, but domestic constitutional restrictions aside, the enactment of the Anti-Secession Law in the PRC in 2005 has made it challenging for the ROC to claim that they are instead an independent country.
> The official position of the government of Taiwan is that all of China is one country, whose rightful government is currently based on the island of Taiwan, but whose land is 99% occupied by Maoist rebels.
I don't think that's the sincerely held position of Taiwan anymore. However, maintaining it is part of their current détente with the PRC: it has threatened to attack Taiwan if it renounces it's claim to the rest of China (which would be a de-facto declaration of independence).
> The official position of the government of Taiwan is that all of China is one country, whose rightful government is currently based on the island of Taiwan, but whose land is 99% occupied by Maoist rebels.
According to the same government in Taiwan, Mongolia is not an independent country, it is a part of "the Republic of China". See its official map here [1].
I think that if you believed in self-determination of people inside Crimea and put it to a vote, there is a decent chance the people would have chosen to be annexed making it a justified act (but this is not what happened). This is complicated by extensive propaganda and other manipulation on all sides, and thoughts about the rights of Ukraine as a whole.
What is clear is that Crimea and Ukraine are being used as pawns in a global geopolitical conflict that has little to do with or concern for the people actually there. A significant portion of it is about power and popularity of leaders and parties inside their own state using the international conflict to bolster support.
It is hard to not have a dim view of international politics like this.
Taiwan is completely different situation. It simply does not belong to China. The rest of the world allows China to pretend differently but it is just words.
Even the Taiwanese government doesn't claim they are a separate country from mainland China; they both are say they're the rightful rulers over all China.
It looks a lot like an internal dispute and I don't think the rest of the world should be meddling in their affairs.
Nice in theory, but China goes out of it's way to force it's viewpoint on others outside of China and Taiwan (eg political interference in Australia, propaganda distribution in Australia, the whole South China Sea debacle where China actively tries to prevent ships navigating international waters, debt-trap loans to various Pacific and other nations etc etc) . The relationship between Taiwan and China is just one aspect of this, and you better believe there will be some kind of military action taken to defend Taiwan if China decides to go that way, something even more destabilising to the region. So, just 'staying out of it' and silent is not really an optimal option, IMO.
Does Taiwan want to be recognized as an independent, sovereign nation? As far as I'm aware their claim is that they are the legitimate Chinese government.
Formal deviation from that posture would immediately provoke war from China.
Otherwise, it looks like pretty clear picture. The population identifies as (Taiwanese && not Chinese) at ~70-95%. The Sunflower movement, the election of the DPP and formation of the New Power Party, the Tsai administration's unprecedented defiance towards China.. all point the same direction, not to mention recent calls for independence-oriented referendums.
> Does Taiwan want to be recognized as an independent, sovereign nation?
Yes, probably. The current government is pro-independence, and I think the majority of the people are as well.
As this point, the PRC is the party that's most strongly against an independent Taiwan.
> As far as I'm aware their claim is that they are the legitimate Chinese government.
Officially, yes, but it's very complicated. In the mid-20th century they were firmly committed to that idea, but now they mainly pay lip service to it in order to walk a very fine line with regards to the PRC.
Look at France and how much the Yellow Vest protests and their precursors achieved. The French have managed to keep government from enacting a lot of neoliberal crap.
Readit News
I urge you to read other sources.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/12/air-new-zealan... is a slower paced and less click baity look at the situation (which includes links to Stuff's claims):
> “This issue relates to a particular aircraft which is not yet certified to operate to China but was unfortunately assigned to operate our Shanghai flight on Saturday night,” the spokesperson said.
You can believe them or not, but my experience has led me to believe nearly anyone over Stuff.
If you're interested, check their Gold Card Permit. It's a visa+redisent card allowing you to stay and work for anyone there up to 3years. The only requirement is to justify of a salary of 160k NTD/month(~USD 5210/month), anywhere in the world, if you don't earn that, try the skills application[1]. And about the article, they are now requesting feedbacks from the public for the next immigration bill [2], that will make even easier to apply fo the visa.
[1] https://foreigntalentact.ndc.gov.tw/en/cp.aspx?n=128B875DE9C...
[2] https://join.gov.tw/policies/detail/1b688f9c-5f05-47ce-ab56-...
Certainly lefty idealism but the West has a limited window of influence to improve how China projects its power.
23m Taiwanese people depend on somebody saying no. To ignore the PRCs demands. We've already let 13m Chinese Muslims get sent to concentration camps. We broadly ignored the incorporation of Tibet. Great Firewall, political incarceration, no problem, China, just keep making our stuff and investing.
Again, out window of opportunity to do something here is closing. Strong economic sanctions have to come quickly. But we also have to use every bit of defiance to resist behaviour that is clearly wrong.
> Chinese commanders fear they may be forced into armed contest with an enemy that is better trained, better motivated, and better prepared for the rigors of warfare than troops the PLA could throw against them. A cross-strait war looks far less like an inevitable victory for China than it does a staggeringly risky gamble.
...
> Easton estimates that Taiwanese, American, and Japanese leaders will know that the PLA is preparing for a cross-strait war more than 60 days before hostilities begin. They will know for certain that an invasion will happen more than 30 days before the first missiles are fired. This will give the Taiwanese ample time to move much of their command and control infrastructure into hardened mountain tunnels, move their fleet out of vulnerable ports, detain suspected agents and intelligence operatives, litter the ocean with sea mines, disperse and camouflage army units across the country, put the economy on war footing, and distribute weapons to Taiwan’s 2.5 million reservists.
> There are only 13 beaches on Taiwan’s western coast that the PLA could possibly land at. Each of these has already been prepared for a potential conflict. Long underground tunnels—complete with hardened, subterranean supply depots—crisscross the landing sites. The berm of each beach has been covered with razor-leaf plants. Chemical treatment plants are common in many beach towns—meaning that invaders must prepare for the clouds of toxic gas any indiscriminate saturation bombing on their part will release. This is how things stand in times of peace.
On Crimea at least some percentage (20%, 30%,...??) really wanted to belong to Russia.
In Taiwan, the amount of Taiwanese that want to be "unified" by force is 0%.
Good luck ruling a country that hates you. (Sure, it can be done by force, but at what price?)
1. Amphibious invasions are hard. The Taiwan Strait is nothing to sneeze at, especially for a military with no recent experience in conducting one like the PLA/N.
2. Taiwan has a far more economic impact upon the global economy than Ukraine. Other nations would be far more disturbed by the disruption of a first world economy, than a developing one like Ukraine’s. I don’t think we’ve seen the loss of as an economy as significant as Taiwan’s in recent history.
If you go into Morocco with a map on your vehicle that shows Western Sahara as a separate country, you'll have a hell of a time with the Moroccan police/immigration. I met people that were detained for 5 hours because of it. Morocco want everyone in the world to believe Western Sahara is simply part of Morocco. I cut that part off my map before I got there.
I'm told same story for the border in the East between Egypt and Sudan. Egypt want you to believe it's a straight line, Sudan want you to believe it goes up a bit (making Sudan bigger). Again, I met people that had problems with this.
"Admitting" Taiwan is a "real country" seems kind of sensible, but it's not compatible with the narrative of either the PRC or the ROC, and it's completely understandable that you shouldn't formally recognize as a nation anyone making such a ridiculous claim.
> it's completely understandable that you shouldn't formally recognize as a nation anyone making such a ridiculous claim.
I've heard more ridiculous claims. As a matter of history, this is completely correct. It's just that the rebels have really entrenched themselves.
This position is fundamentally identical to the position of a king-in-exile. Sometimes they made it back home. Sometimes they didn't.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Secession_Law
I don't think that's the sincerely held position of Taiwan anymore. However, maintaining it is part of their current détente with the PRC: it has threatened to attack Taiwan if it renounces it's claim to the rest of China (which would be a de-facto declaration of independence).
According to the same government in Taiwan, Mongolia is not an independent country, it is a part of "the Republic of China". See its official map here [1].
[1] http://www.chinayouth.org.hk/China/rocmap.html
If Kosovo could be classified as a nation after a few weeks of independence it's only hypocrisy to deny the same to Taiwan.
What is clear is that Crimea and Ukraine are being used as pawns in a global geopolitical conflict that has little to do with or concern for the people actually there. A significant portion of it is about power and popularity of leaders and parties inside their own state using the international conflict to bolster support.
It is hard to not have a dim view of international politics like this.
Taiwan is completely different situation. It simply does not belong to China. The rest of the world allows China to pretend differently but it is just words.
It looks a lot like an internal dispute and I don't think the rest of the world should be meddling in their affairs.
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Otherwise, it looks like pretty clear picture. The population identifies as (Taiwanese && not Chinese) at ~70-95%. The Sunflower movement, the election of the DPP and formation of the New Power Party, the Tsai administration's unprecedented defiance towards China.. all point the same direction, not to mention recent calls for independence-oriented referendums.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jnylander/2015/02/14/strong-sup...https://www.npr.org/2018/06/20/616083178/born-independent-ta...https://international.thenewslens.com/article/113537
Yes, probably. The current government is pro-independence, and I think the majority of the people are as well.
As this point, the PRC is the party that's most strongly against an independent Taiwan.
> As far as I'm aware their claim is that they are the legitimate Chinese government.
Officially, yes, but it's very complicated. In the mid-20th century they were firmly committed to that idea, but now they mainly pay lip service to it in order to walk a very fine line with regards to the PRC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_independence_movement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Consensus
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Good luck getting everyone on board.
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