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mixedCase · 9 years ago
SEJeff · 9 years ago
Not just that, but there is a trademark on it:

http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4804:9ig...

x1798DE · 9 years ago
Even if there weren't another piece of software named that, I really think these single common dictionary word names need to stop.
chejazi · 9 years ago
fake-name · 9 years ago
So much this.
Dangeranger · 9 years ago
Signal from Open Whisper Systems already has a large user base, many of which are in the same demographic which you are targeting.

It would be to your benefit to rebrand under a different name.

soheil · 9 years ago
CAUTION: It downloads ALL your email addresses in your Gmail.

Not clear how it works immediately until after you connect your Gmail. It tires to find an email for someone in your contacts who can introduce you to an investor. meh.

petersimones · 9 years ago
Your first statement just isn't true. Your last sentence is. When you connect your Gmail to Signal, it infers who your strongest relationships are, with the idea that those are the people who'd give you the warmest intros to investors. You can ask those people to join you on Signal, and if they do, you'll see which investors you can get to (e.g. a strong intro) through them. Compare that to the LinkedIn process today ("hey I saw you're connected to X" ... "Yeahhh but I don't really know them. You wouldn't want an intro from me" ... rinse and repeat) and you start to see one of Signal's benefits.
dsl · 9 years ago
> When you connect your Gmail to Signal, it infers who your strongest relationships are

Guess how it does that... they say on their own page it scrapes email addresses.

dsjoerg · 9 years ago
I see from the Google Request for Permission interface that Signal wants to "View your email message metadata such as labels and headers, but not the email body".

That's way too sensitive for me to give away in exchange for uncertain benefits. I realize that I've given this information to Gmail already. But it's not hard to concoct some very plausible bad scenarios of what could happen with this data if I said Yes.

tyre · 9 years ago
There is a major chicken and egg problem here.

As a post-YC company, I know a lot of investors. That means my gmail is valuable to you (since you can pull a bunch of info) but that your service is not valuable to me.

You need to better incentivize users that have the information that makes your service more valuable. Something like AngelList's ability to verify that an investor invested in a company, plus the ability for founders to anonymously leave reviews of investors that you confirm they've spoken with.

If, going into our next round, I could only access those reviews by connecting my work GMail, then I can see why it may make sense.

Right now, I don't know why I would use this and I think I'm your target market.

petersimones · 9 years ago
Good thoughts here. Worth noting that Signal doesn't really gain anything from your Gmail data other than the ability to provide you network benefits via the relationship strengths implied by that data. And you don't need to connect your Gmail to use the service. You can sign in with email/password and use all the investor finding tools, which is arguably Signal's primary benefit right now. There isn't a great tool out there to find investors (and similarly, for investors to effectively broadcast what they do and do not want to see). That part isn't chicken and egg. You can use Crunchbase, AngelList, etc., but it's a slog. Signal should keep getting better in that regard.
basch · 9 years ago
>Signal doesn't really gain anything from your Gmail data other than the ability to provide you network benefits via the relationship strengths implied by that data.

Instagram grew because it imported and co-opted twitters social graph. They absolutely benefit from being able to build a 10,000 foot view of the current social landscape.

kinkdr · 9 years ago
> There’s a long way to go, so please give feedback

Please don't ask for my Gmail account.

marklyon · 9 years ago
Interesting, but can't move past the sign-in portion. I'm not giving a website the ability to see my message subjects, headers and labels. Nothing on your site landing page convinces me of the value in doing so.
petersimones · 9 years ago
Sign in with username/password, then. Signal doesn't require Gmail. You can add your Gmail later if you want to / see the benefit to you in doing so. Signal's biggest benefit to founders right now is the investor searching/finding capabilities. You don't need to be Gmail authed to get value from that. If you build, say, a target list of 50+ investors in Signal, you then might want to see your strongest intro paths to those investors. That's when you can consider the Gmail auth. Always up to you.
dsl · 9 years ago
VC: "How did you get introduced to me?"

You: "That signal app..."

VC: "So [introducer] gave away my personal contact info to a random company?"