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yyyfb commented on TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users nbcnews.com/tech/tech-new... · Posted by u/Leary

If that’s your position, then you would be fine if EU countries were to pull out all US telco infrastructure because of their previous abuses towards European citizens?

yyyfb · a year ago

I'd be mindful that having a NATO partner be able to spy is maybe better than having Huawei spy if you have to choose, but yes, I think it's a risk that EU countries should be aware of and probably are more aware of than with social networks.

yyyfb commented on TikTok goes dark in the US techcrunch.com/2025/01/18... · Posted by u/mfiguiere

jayd16 · a year ago

Isn't this like saying a popular newspaper should be banned because of what they choose to put on the front page?

yyyfb · a year ago

No. Unlike a newspaper, they host videos and photos of a third of (?) the US population, have detailed reader data on who reads what when, who is friends with whom, location history, etc.

This data treasure trove may be stored in US, but it isn't protected from Chinese govt access. It is the same for data by American companies, which US Patriot act lets the US govt access.

yyyfb commented on TikTok goes dark in the US techcrunch.com/2025/01/18... · Posted by u/mfiguiere

warble · a year ago

Which they exert through promotion or demotion of speech. In the end it's still a free speech issue in my mind.

yyyfb · a year ago

Not necessarily. China pursues many objectives when it comes to its national security, such as intimidation and coercion of dissidents or opponents of its regime living abroad. Assuming China's equivalent of the Patriot act lets it treat TikTok user data as an open book, there is a lot for them to learn from it.

yyyfb commented on TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users nbcnews.com/tech/tech-new... · Posted by u/Leary

kelseydh · a year ago

I don't think it's unfair to China, I think it's unfair to European countries, Canada, Australia, and the rest of the world that uses TikTok who are watching the U.S. demand it is entitled to run and control TikTok.

This would be like the U.S. forcing Spotify's Swedish headquarters to accept U.S. ownership.

yyyfb · a year ago

EU countries are asleep at the wheel on matters of national security and sovereignty. Spotify is not a matter of national security. TikTok, and social networking in general, has been one for some time now. Misinformation, conspiracy theories, actual conspiracies to overthrow govt, etc have all found renewed vigor thanks to social networks.

US on the other hand now has its social media controlled by oligarchs, not much better maybe.

yyyfb commented on TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users nbcnews.com/tech/tech-new... · Posted by u/Leary

tw1984 · a year ago

There is no such ban. Microsoft operates tons of services in China. Internet companies just need to host all Chinese in China using an approved provider. This is the exact same requirement extended to Tiktok, for ages US tiktok data is stored in Oracle cloud with full audit access by appointed American firms.

yyyfb · a year ago

Parent talks about Meta, you mention Microsoft. They are not in the same business. Meta is in the social networking domain, which the communist party in China has treated for years as a matter of national security. The "color revolutions" and the "Arab Spring" gave them good reason to believe that online social networks were a driver of societal change too powerful not to control. And they control it very very tightly.

yyyfb commented on TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users nbcnews.com/tech/tech-new... · Posted by u/Leary

bilekas · a year ago

> If anything, this TikTok ban is actually making things more equal, if only by a tiny bit.

I do t use tiktok and have no skin in the game as an EU resident, but setting a precedent for this kind of behaviour to permit clthe government to simply block anything it wants is basically following in CCPs footsteps, that's certainly not a good thing in my eyes.

yyyfb · a year ago

As an EU resident your govt likely exerts far more control over media (both domestic and foreign owned) than the US

yyyfb commented on TikTok goes dark in the US techcrunch.com/2025/01/18... · Posted by u/mfiguiere

mcherm · a year ago

An an American, I also find it outrageous. In fact, as I understand it, our most fundamental law (the Constitution) clearly guarantees "freedom of speech and freedom of the press" which specifically means that the government may NOT shut down a particular publisher because the government does not like what they say, or who it is that owns them.

Unfortunately, our Supreme Court unanimously disagrees with me about what our Constitution requires.

yyyfb · a year ago

TikTok's problem isn't with what they say openly, it's with the amount of invisible control exerted by a foreign government.

yyyfb commented on TikTok goes dark in the US techcrunch.com/2025/01/18... · Posted by u/mfiguiere

bakuninsbart · a year ago

As a European, I find it quite outrageous to demand a company be sold to the US because it is too successful and valuable to be foreign-held. It is the old-school imperialist school of thought. If you think Bytedance is harming Americans, despite following american law, then amend the rules for social media companies. Or at least be honest enough to say: "The free market is great, but only if we hold all the cards".

yyyfb · a year ago

Compare with China though. There is absolutely no way that a company like Bytedance would be allowed to operate inside China while under American control.

yyyfb commented on How NAT Traversal Works (2020) tailscale.com/blog/how-na... · Posted by u/hhthrowaway1230

yyyfb · a year ago

The fact that this emerged instead of IPv6 is a true testament to the power of "good enough hackery"

yyyfb commented on Lies we tell ourselves to keep using Golang (2022) fasterthanli.me/articles/... · Posted by u/reillyse

DanielHB · a year ago

You hit the main gripe I have with Go, its types system is so basic. I get people raving type-correctness of Go when they come from Python but the type system in Go is simply pre-historic by modern day standards.

yyyfb · a year ago

I feel that the future for Python people who want type safety will eventually be TypeScript on nodejs. Go was intended as an alternative to C++. It seems that in reaction to the ungodly complexity of C++, the creators wanted to avoid adding language features as hard as possible. If the user could work around it with a little extra verbosity, it'd be ok. I feel they removed too much and maybe not the right things.

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