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yukkuri commented on AI Determines Sex of Person from Brain Scans   neurosciencenews.com/ai-g... · Posted by u/bookofjoe
throwawa14223 · 2 years ago
While skepticism is healthy, I don't understand how you can say with certainty it will not work.

A hypothetical technology that could very accurately determine the sex of a brain would seem to be a boon for transgendered people. Early detection could mean better treatment and less suffering with fewer cases of desisting.

yukkuri · 2 years ago
I do hope for your optimistic scenario, but I do not expect it.
yukkuri commented on Institutions try to preserve the problem to which they are the solution   effectiviology.com/shirky... · Posted by u/walterbell
airejtlij · 2 years ago
This forum seems to be filled with (comments by) people who love the "there's no perfect solution so we shouldn't try because trying might infringe on my libertarian liberties". I need to stop reading the comments.
yukkuri · 2 years ago
Yeah the stench of that is quite nauseating at times...
yukkuri commented on Institutions try to preserve the problem to which they are the solution   effectiviology.com/shirky... · Posted by u/walterbell
christkv · 2 years ago
In comparison to what? The pristine environmental record of the soviet union, north korea, cuba, venezuela, communist east europe, cambodia, vietnam, china etc...
yukkuri · 2 years ago
Ah yes someone always rolls out the false dilemma of "the only options are completely unregulated capitalism or completely top down command economy communism".

It'd be shorter with the same meaning if you'd just scream "traitorous commie!!!!1111"

yukkuri commented on Institutions try to preserve the problem to which they are the solution   effectiviology.com/shirky... · Posted by u/walterbell
christkv · 2 years ago
If the mandarins salaries and livelihood depend on it they will move mountains to sustain the institution. This is human nature. The problem with public institutions is that they fase few external pressures. A company will eventually die and history is littered by the corpses of former industry titans. Public institutions on the other hand.
yukkuri · 2 years ago
Yeah like all those external pressures that have kept private mega corps from polluting, monopolizing, pervasively surveiling, brutally exploiting labor, and generating false "science" that maintains their dominance even in the face of huge global negative effects... Oh, wait...
yukkuri commented on Institutions try to preserve the problem to which they are the solution   effectiviology.com/shirky... · Posted by u/walterbell
felonynolef · 2 years ago
But there is no need to use the name of a guy to describe the problem. It's like naming hacking the principle of Zuck
yukkuri · 2 years ago
So because you don't like this naming scheme no name should be allowed at all?
yukkuri commented on Institutions try to preserve the problem to which they are the solution   effectiviology.com/shirky... · Posted by u/walterbell
ta988 · 2 years ago
So we can't talk about it and analyze it?
yukkuri · 2 years ago
Talking about and analyzing the problem might lead to mitigating or even substantially fixing it, which would remove its usefulness as a rhetorical attack on attempts to solve social problems.
yukkuri commented on Institutions try to preserve the problem to which they are the solution   effectiviology.com/shirky... · Posted by u/walterbell
unethical_ban · 2 years ago
It's a good article for those who are unfamiliar with these cautionary tales of second order effects and fraud. As someone who believes government is a solution to many problems, these lessons are critical.

I disagree with the universality of the statement "any institution made to solve a problem will preserve it". They back off this in the caveats section.

Two important things to prevent this is to consider the influence of money on a solution/organization, and what kind of oversight is needed for an organization. Also, when spinning up a program, asking "is the problem this org solves a permanent one?" Or can the problem be eradicated?

A group created to clean up trash in a city park system might need to be large one year, but practically non-existent 5 years later if goals are met. The planned decommissioning of such organizations should be considered.

yukkuri · 2 years ago
Yes, sadly this is an easy way for people to dishonestly claim to themselves and others that any attempt to solve problems (other than the "problem" of how to generate ever greater wealth disparity which somehow never gets included in this) is completely worthless
yukkuri commented on Institutions try to preserve the problem to which they are the solution   effectiviology.com/shirky... · Posted by u/walterbell
yukkuri · 2 years ago
There is a trap here of saying "thus we shouldn't do anything about problems" rather than the more reasonable "we should be prepared to iterate on our efforts".
yukkuri commented on AI Determines Sex of Person from Brain Scans   neurosciencenews.com/ai-g... · Posted by u/bookofjoe
rcxdude · 2 years ago
I think the implication is it doesn't actually work well. Running hard-to-explain models on brain scans has a history of producing papers which fail to reproduce, there were a bunch of bunk results in fMRI research a few years ago.
yukkuri · 2 years ago
Exactly, it's going to turn out that it didn't work well but it will still get used harmfully.
yukkuri commented on Wyze security incident update   forums.wyze.com/t/update-... · Posted by u/johnkpaul
Cheer2171 · 2 years ago
My home insurance requires proof of theft.

Often you use a police report. My local police department is on an unofficial slowdown strike because they don't feel appreciated post-BLM. Possibly also because if they "forget" to file police reports or they "get lost in the system" then the official crime rate goes down. It took me over a month to get a police report I could send to insurance for a simple break in, and spent more of my labor by hourly wage trying to get that report than the cost insurance reimbursed.

yukkuri · 2 years ago
Doing a "job action" like that because people have lost trust in your profession isn't going to restore that trust.

The only thing that will is to stop being trigger happy menaces to public safety.

u/yukkuri

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