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wuboo commented on Sunsetting Mercurial Support in Bitbucket bitbucket.org/blog/sunset... · Posted by u/ingve

dragonsh · 6 years ago

Who says development is dead. Please check the changelog.

https://kallithea-scm.org/repos/kallithea/changelog

Now lets look at Rhodecode. https://code.rhodecode.com/rhodecode-enterprise-ce

You will notice that Kallithea has been consistently updated regularly. Besides user like me its also used internally at Unity Engine.

Also the features you mentioned not all are in Rhodecode open source edition.

wuboo · 6 years ago

I'm not really following the "commits" but rather following releases. In the last 2 Years Kallithea had only 1 minor release (https://pypi.org/project/Kallithea/#history) 0.3 -> 0.4 without many new features. RhodeCode had 5 minor releases (https://docs.rhodecode.com/RhodeCode-Enterprise/release-note...) and multiple bugfix releases. I'm aware not all features in comparison are free, but we use the CE free version and it's enough for us at this point.

wuboo commented on Sunsetting Mercurial Support in Bitbucket bitbucket.org/blog/sunset... · Posted by u/ingve

philpem · 6 years ago

Another happy user of Kallithea here!

I used to run Rhodecode some years ago, and switched to Kal when they forked. At this point I wouldn't be without it.

wuboo · 6 years ago

Kallithea was an option 2 years ago, now the development of it is basically dead. Rhodecode is still releasing regularly. Just check the feature differences: https://rhodecode.com/blog/133/rhodecode-vs-kallithea-compar...

wuboo commented on Sunsetting Mercurial Support in Bitbucket bitbucket.org/blog/sunset... · Posted by u/ingve

dragonsh · 6 years ago

It's very sad to see bitbucket dropping mercurial support. Now only Facebook and volunteers are keeping mercurial alive. Sometimes technically better architecture and user interface lose to a non user friendly hard solutions due to inertia of mass adoption.

So a lesson in Software development is similar to betamax and VHS, so marketing is still a winner over technically superior architecture and ease of use. GitHub successfully marketed git, so git and GitHub are synonymous for most developers. Now majority of open source projects are reliant on a single proprietary solution Github by Microsoft, for managing code and project. Can understand the difficulty of bitbucket, when Python language itself moved out of mercurial due to the same inertia.

Hopefully gitlab can come out with mercurial support to migrate projects using it from bitbucket.

For people who believe in self hosted solution can install Kallithea (https://kallithea-scm.org) or Rhodecode open source edition. Kallithea is used by Unity engine to manage their source code internally with mercurial.

wuboo · 6 years ago

As you said it's sad but fortunately we have Rhodecode. In my previous company I was using Rhodecode plus mercurial and for developer working with it was a pleasure. Now in current company we using Bitbucket, we'll think then to moving to rhodecode because we still want to use Mercurial