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wikfwikf commented on Japan PM’s solution to dire birthrate has already been rejected by young   theguardian.com/world/202... · Posted by u/mindracer
bsaul · 3 years ago
I've already had this conversation many times with people arguing against the obvious situation, and it inevitably leads to absurd conclusions that defy the immediate cognitive conclusions and intuition of anyone looking at a given city landscape (you could tell just by looking at a picture if a city looks european, african or asian, for example).

However this is most of the time a total waste of time, because the reason the person is arguing against the obvious is not because of intelligent caution, but rather out of scare.

So sorry if i'm not going this route with you. If you're sincerely curious i suggest you go on a bike ride in Argenteuil on a friday.

wikfwikf · 3 years ago
What do you mean when you say "French" or "non-French"?

What are the words you are scared of using if you answered this question?

Why won't you use them?

wikfwikf commented on GPT is all you need for the back end   github.com/TheAppleTucker... · Posted by u/drothlis
pluijzer · 3 years ago
The internet is full of examples of this but just to add one more data point.

I asked about a specific Dutch book, ChatGPT was wrong about the author (it was another author born a century later). I corrected it but got told that the two authors were the same and it was a pseudonym.

I ask the birthdate of the correct author. It gave me relatively correct answer with date of birth and death.

I then asked about the birthdate of the wrong author. It told me again a, relatively correct answer, indeed he was born long after the other author died.

I asked ChatGPT how it could be that the dates differed. It told me that it is very usual for an author to go by a pseudonym.

I told it it was wrong. They are different authors living in different centuries . But it stubbornly refused to accept it, teaching me again that it is perfectly common for authors to go by two different names.

edit: Just to add when asked for a description of the book it gave me a very believable summary, which was total nonsense. This is what really disturbed me about ChatGPT. Though I am very impressed by the fact that we now have a system that is very good at parsing human language. Something which was long thought to be impossible. Combining that strength with an, actual, datasource would be the only way forward in my opinion.

wikfwikf · 3 years ago
I asked ChatGPT to write a function which takes a year as input and determines whether or not it's a leap year - a classic basic programming question. It answered perfectly. Of course, there are lots of examples of this code.

Then I asked it "Could you adapt the function so that it works on Venus, where years have 224 days?"

It offered me a new version of the function, which simply checks if the year is a multiple of 224. Apparently on Venus the number of days in a year and the frequency of leap years are the same number. It qualified the answer: "It's worth noting that this function is based on current knowledge and understanding of Venus..."

I asked it "What if we want the function to use Venus days as well as Venus years?"

It offered me the same function, except that a) the variable 'years' was now called 'days', and b) the modulus was changed from 224 to 224.701.

So I asked "Should the argument to the last function be a float or an integer?"

It gave me 3 pars of complete nonsense about how the difference between floats and integers affects the precision of calculating leap years (while again warning that the exact value of the Venus year might change).

ChatGPT does a very good imitation of a certain type of candidate I've occasionally interviewed, who knows almost nothing but is keen to try various tricks to bluff you out, including confidently being wrong, providing lots of meaningless explanation, and sometimes telling you that you are wrong about something. I have never hired anyone like this, but I've occasionally come close.

I have been trying various interview questions on ChatGPT, originally because my colleagues warned me that a candidate who was surreptitiously using it could ace almost any interview. I was skeptical and I have not been convinced.

But I think it's actually a great exercise to practice interviewing on it. If ChatGPT can answer your questions accurately (try to be fair and ignore its slightly uncanny tone), then you probably need better questions. If you are quite technical and put some thought into it, you should be able to come up with things which are both novel enough and hard enough that ChatGPT will simply flounder catastrophically. (I'm not referring to 'tricks' like the Venus question, but real questions on how to achieve something moderately complicated using code.) It's a really good reminder too that when we ask candidates to write code, we should examine and debug it in detail, then ask decent follow-up questions, rather than just accepting something that looks right.

wikfwikf commented on Ask HN: Where are all the parties?    · Posted by u/throwaway_party
wkat4242 · 3 years ago
Hmm in the 50s people were poorer yes but everyone could buy a house with a garden and actually on one wage only because the wife wouldn't work.

I totally agree hosting parties at home is much more problematic as people live closer together and get annoyed. I can see it around me a lot. I live in a major partying neighborhood (50m from the most infamous square in town for noise) and I don't care about the noise because it makes me feel good hearing people having fun. But my neighbors hate it. And most of them have moved here in the last decade knowing full well what they were getting into.

When you have a free standing house it's really a different story.

wikfwikf · 3 years ago
I think this phenomenon is actually something else: in the 1950s people who were commonly depicted as being part of society tended to have a house with a garden and a nuclear family structure where the husband, but not the wife, worked.

There were plenty of people who couldn't afford a house with a garden, or who didn't have one for other reasons, or who were not married or had a different type of family structure, or men who didn't work, or women who did work. But they were made invisible by the lack of portrayal, both in that society's image of itself, and in our image of that society.

(Or by a different mechanism: when people outside of that structure were portrayed, it was as outsiders and aberrations, whereas married couples with children who lived in houses were portrayed as the norm. For example, the protagonist of 'On the Road', commonly associated with that era, does not have a fixed address or a job, nor a wife, nor children. The protagonist of 'Invisible Man', a book central to the discourse of who does and does not get represented in media, lives in a basement apartment alone without a wife or family. The protagonist of 'The Bell Jar' is a woman who lives alone in an apartment in New York while working at a job, then in her mother's house, then in a mental asylum.)

wikfwikf commented on Japan PM’s solution to dire birthrate has already been rejected by young   theguardian.com/world/202... · Posted by u/mindracer
bsaul · 3 years ago
You'd be surprised. Since we seem to have moved to ad-hominem argumentation :

I think your categories and your political reflexes prevent you from thinking straight. Everybody in the world would have a broad understanding of what "french" means (or "japanese", "americans", "italian", etc). For some reason you pretend to ignore there are some cultural norms that are associated to a nation ("cultural" in the broadest sense, which includes the way you look). I believe because this fact scares you or have been associated to a taboo.

Those taboos prevent you from addressing questions, and not addressing the issues don't make them magically disappear. Worst, you risk leaving those questions to people that have a political agenda.

wikfwikf · 3 years ago
You seem to be the one subject to taboos. You don't want to say what you mean by 'French' or 'non-French'.

I am perfectly capable of understanding and discussing what can be meant by 'Frenchness', and what I mean by it.

wikfwikf commented on The product I worked on for the last 4 years is now open-source   confluent.io/blog/announc... · Posted by u/reducks
wikfwikf · 3 years ago
But the point of the GP comment was that language has not 'evolved', but is intentionally being used in a misleading way here.
wikfwikf commented on Japan PM’s solution to dire birthrate has already been rejected by young   theguardian.com/world/202... · Posted by u/mindracer
bsaul · 3 years ago
The same i would mean if i said "non-japanese ", only applied to france.
wikfwikf · 3 years ago
I understand your reluctance to answer a straightforward question: you know exactly what you are, and yet you are ashamed to admit to it.

This is not the political culture of Vercingetorix, nor of Charles de Gaulle ;)

wikfwikf commented on Japan PM’s solution to dire birthrate has already been rejected by young   theguardian.com/world/202... · Posted by u/mindracer
bsaul · 3 years ago
may i ask where you have lived and travelled in france ?

Have you ever been to any suburb, not just in Paris ( which already has some suburbs with close to 99% non-french inhabitants) but in pretty much any average sized city in the country ?

based on your saying I can only assume you only lived in the central part of paris, and went on holidays in the west coast such as bordeaux or brest. Because all the rest of the country is pretty much in transition.

wikfwikf · 3 years ago
What do you mean by "non-french"?
wikfwikf commented on NYC jails want to ban physical mail, then privatize scanning of digital versions   theintercept.com/2023/01/... · Posted by u/Bender
AvocadoPanic · 3 years ago
I'd rather ride the U-Bahn in Munich than the subway in NYC.
wikfwikf · 3 years ago
Yes, and I'd rather go to prison in Munich than to Rikers Island.
wikfwikf commented on Apple CEO Tim Cook requests and receives a 40% pay cut   cnbc.com/2023/01/12/apple... · Posted by u/amrrs
CoolGuySteve · 3 years ago
Yeah, how about if you lay off more than 1% of a publicly traded company, top level executive compensation must be 0 for the year.

Right now there's a misaligned incentive to perform layoffs in order to appease investors (including those in the boardroom) and pump the stock price even if the company is doing well.

wikfwikf · 3 years ago
If investors see layoffs and judge that the company just became more valuable, either they are right or they are wrong.

If they are right, then isn't the job of management, in a principle fundamental to the US economic system, to follow their wishes? Management doesn't have to do whatever investors ask for, but there is no real justification for them to do something which is both against their wishes and against the interests of the company.

If they are wrong, then surely the problem is that most US companies are having their decision-making driven by a group of people who are paramount but who are making misguided or misinformed decisions. Any tweaking of the exact incentives which doesn't solve this problem is both a distraction and subject to the law of unintended consequences.

Note that I am not strongly in favor of either sweeping layoffs or of the specific US variant of capitalism in general. I just think that one should be honest about to what extent problems are unavoidable to the extent that one cleaves to a given system.

wikfwikf commented on Japan PM’s solution to dire birthrate has already been rejected by young   theguardian.com/world/202... · Posted by u/mindracer
bsaul · 3 years ago
From your own article :

"Due to a law dating from 1872 at the start of the Third Republic, France has prohibited the collection of data on a citizens race, ethnicity or their beliefs such as religion through national censuses,[47][48] however estimates have been made of the ethnic and racial demography of the country in the present"

We're talking estimation as it is indeed illegal, no matter how crazy it may sound like. Estimation is highly dependant on who's doing the estimation, and for what purpose, and as you can see in the article itself, the topic is highly controversial among specialist.

Now, if you were living in france for the past 40 years, and had regularely travelled across the country, you would see that in that particular case, the situation is very obvious, and the only circle left still debating the issue is demographic specialists.

Politicians and media used to deny the issue and flagged anyone mentioning it as racist, but things have recently changed and we finally start talking about it like grown ups.

wikfwikf · 3 years ago
I have lived and travelled in France for around 40 years and I don't at all recognize what you are describing.

Your claims appear to be based on suggesting that you (and, in a laughable falsehood, the wide range of opinion in French society) knows for a fact that this situation exists, but if anyone does not agree with you, that is merely their opinion, since it is impossible to measure.

u/wikfwikf

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