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ujkhsjkdhf234 commented on Meta bypassed Apple privacy protections, claims former employee   9to5mac.com/2025/08/21/me... · Posted by u/latexr
Manuel_D · 6 months ago
Presumably some people's rates also go down on account of more extensive information gathering. If the insurance company just raised rates across the board, they'd no longer be as cost competitive as other insurance providers.
ujkhsjkdhf234 · 6 months ago
Not if all insurance providers are playing this game. Like algorithmic rent fixing currently happening.
ujkhsjkdhf234 commented on Meta bypassed Apple privacy protections, claims former employee   9to5mac.com/2025/08/21/me... · Posted by u/latexr
GuinansEyebrows · 6 months ago
> Most people are not the Hacker News types who know this.

many "Hacker News types" happily work for FAANGs, see little to nothing wrong with the social ills their labor causes, and benefit handsomely from it... and would benefit little from acknowledging that or working to change those conditions (or their employment situation).

ujkhsjkdhf234 · 6 months ago
Sure but you're talking about apples and oranges. These are two different problems.
ujkhsjkdhf234 commented on Meta bypassed Apple privacy protections, claims former employee   9to5mac.com/2025/08/21/me... · Posted by u/latexr
Manuel_D · 6 months ago
Is it inconceivable that people actually see lower savings in exchange for tracking shopping habits is a beneficial transaction? Safeway can more effectively distribute products. I get to save money. Safeway has an incentive to keep this data secure - if it leaked then their competitors gain an advantage. And even if it does leak, how are my grocery shopping habits being published really going to negatively impact me? I mean, I guess I can see how a dieting influencer secretly buying donuts might be scandalous... but 99.9% probably DGAF if their grocery lists were leaked.

I often find that people just reflexively assume that data collection about their habits is inherently a net negative, rather than laying out the cost benefit analysis.

ujkhsjkdhf234 · 6 months ago
> And even if it does leak, how are my grocery shopping habits being published really going to negatively impact me?

Alone? Not much. It's about aggregating as many data points as possible. Your grocery is just one of those.

ujkhsjkdhf234 commented on Meta bypassed Apple privacy protections, claims former employee   9to5mac.com/2025/08/21/me... · Posted by u/latexr
rchaud · 6 months ago
What third party app are you running offline? By third party I mean something not built into the OS like a notes app, file manager or camera app.
ujkhsjkdhf234 · 6 months ago
Fitness and calorie tracker, ebook reader, notes app (Android doesn't have a good notes app built into the OS), music player app for music I have locally on my phone, and an app that configures my bluetooth headphones.
ujkhsjkdhf234 commented on Meta bypassed Apple privacy protections, claims former employee   9to5mac.com/2025/08/21/me... · Posted by u/latexr
nozzlegear · 6 months ago
I think people do care, but cynical tech types aren't very good at explaining why using a loyalty card or installing an app to save money on gas is ultimately about trade-offs and could be bad for them in the long run. We can't just shake a stick at them and say "abandon your grocery and gas discounts, fools, big tech is always watching!"
ujkhsjkdhf234 · 6 months ago
People not knowing how to communicate to other people is the core of all problems.
ujkhsjkdhf234 commented on Meta bypassed Apple privacy protections, claims former employee   9to5mac.com/2025/08/21/me... · Posted by u/latexr
nickthegreek · 6 months ago
running meta's social media apps offline doesn't seem particular compelling.
ujkhsjkdhf234 · 6 months ago
I can't tell if you are deliberately being obtuse but they are talking about apps overall and not Meta's apps. Many apps use Facebooks SDK because of the Facebook Pixel for tracking and advertisement. Web apps don't prevent that and again, cannot be easily run offline so I'll stick with my native apps.
ujkhsjkdhf234 commented on Meta bypassed Apple privacy protections, claims former employee   9to5mac.com/2025/08/21/me... · Posted by u/latexr
rchaud · 6 months ago
> Meta relied heavily on selling personalized advertising, which required it to be able to target particular demographics and interest groups. This was achieved by tracking individual users across different apps.

Yet another reason to dump native apps (many of which are built using the Facebook SDK despite having nothing to do with FB) in favour of web apps.

ujkhsjkdhf234 · 6 months ago
I like my native apps and I'm not a fan of PWAs because they cannot be made to easily run offline.
ujkhsjkdhf234 commented on Meta bypassed Apple privacy protections, claims former employee   9to5mac.com/2025/08/21/me... · Posted by u/latexr
netdur · 6 months ago
Meta is run by people with no regard for ethics, and if that surprises you, that’s on you. Their whole model is just packaging and selling you with whatever tech they can grab. If you’re worried, don’t install Meta apps. I’ve got WhatsApp on Android and Instagram on iPad, They’re already getting eaten alive by TikTok and AI girlfriends
ujkhsjkdhf234 · 6 months ago
Most people are not the Hacker News types who know this. The Facebook movie is the closest the average person has come to knowing how evil this company is.
ujkhsjkdhf234 commented on New Mexico is first state in US to offer universal child care   governor.state.nm.us/2025... · Posted by u/toomuchtodo
xp84 · 6 months ago
I agree with you vigorously on both those points. I am skeptical however that NM will be able to create a lot of healthy, play-based environments for so many kids.

The market already has incentives to create them -- a ton of good places have waiting lists nationwide, showing unmet demand even at the current price. This suggests the price will need to go higher to attract enough people to do this job. It seems their "$12,000 value" estimate is based on an optimistic belief that they will be buying childcare for their citizens at current prices. When they realize there aren't that many slots available at current rates of pay, will they be okay significantly increasing the costs of the program?

So, my expectations for these facilities are very low and that's a big part of my concern.

ujkhsjkdhf234 · 6 months ago
I don't know where you live but where I live, the cost of daycare is extremely high and there is a waitlist on most places.
ujkhsjkdhf234 commented on New Mexico is first state in US to offer universal child care   governor.state.nm.us/2025... · Posted by u/toomuchtodo
xp84 · 6 months ago
I'm just gonna throw this out here: Well-off kids who barely know their workaholic parents have different but equally bad issues for society, than the poor kids do.

Those poor kids have learning deficits. The "well-off" kids often have morality deficits.

A mom or dad raising them properly might help them more than being Student #642 in a government childcare facility.

This isn't an argument against childcare. My children attended preschool for 3 years before Kindergarten. But I'd rather that people got equal support to have a stay-at-home parent so that people can choose.

ujkhsjkdhf234 · 6 months ago
You aren't wrong but calling it being "Student #642 in a government childcare facility" the wrong way of looking at it. Children grow up best when they are allowed to play with other children. Modern society robs kids of that and helicopter parents are bad for society.

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