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thwayunion commented on Barbados 4–2 Grenada   en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar... · Posted by u/thazework
NoboruWataya · 3 years ago
Pretty insane that Barbados was able to prevent Grenada from scoring an own goal. I would think that would be very easy to do if you were actively trying to do it.
thwayunion · 3 years ago
Right? I'd like to see a video. They must've just maintained control of the ball? Or were they actively keeping both goals?
thwayunion commented on OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google   reuters.com/technology/op... · Posted by u/carlycue
jacamera · 3 years ago
The most illuminating thing about ChatGPT for me is just how terrible most programmers on HN apparently are. I thought it was just a funny meme that all we do is copy/paste from Stack Overflow but apparently that is literally what a lot of people are doing all day.
thwayunion · 3 years ago
Meh.

I was working on a personal project yesterday to answer some questions I had about how liquidity risk works for money market mutual funds, and to forecast/nowcast liquidity risk and NAV risk for a bunch of funds.

Mind you: I don't know the first thing about anything financial. I was just curious.

chatgpt gave me a bunch of sources of data that I wanted, translating my lay description of things I wanted to know into financial terms of art. I could then look up legal definitions and formulas for those terms to make sure they were what I thought they were. chatgpt also told me which SEC forms those things are disclosed on, what data brokers I could use for other data, etc.

between chatgpt and copilot I saved at least an hour on the job of pulling down historical data from EDGAR for a bunch of funds and getting the stats I wanted (I didn't know EDGAR existed until yesterday, and the xml/html/txt formats are kind of annoying... like, fine, but a bit of a pita so I'm glad I had help because ughhh is that kind of code boring and damn are LLMs good few-shot inductive parser generators!). Also wrote some nice chart.js code for me and helped with automatically collecting, searching, and extracting some key stats and terms from prospectuses. I didn't know about chart.js until yesterday.

All of this would've been possible without assistants, and required a lot of "executive function" on my part to bring together, but it seriously saved me at least a couple hours of implementation work and up to a day on research and learning terminology and regulatory stuff. Again, verification of those things is way easier when you know what words to look up definitions for. And chatgpt did make mistakes/hallucinate.

I don't find much use in my professional life, where the code I'm writing is apparently too domain-specific for copilot to be helpful and the mathematics is too complex for chatgpt to help with. Maybe in a few years. We'll see.

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thwayunion commented on Florida parents upset by Michelangelo’s ‘David’ force out principal   washingtonpost.com/educat... · Posted by u/mirthlessend
sharemywin · 3 years ago
The principle was supposed to send a letter to the parents which didn't happen. I believe the law in florida is about notify parents so, there might be some potential legal problems for the school.

I wish democrats would engage in this issue. I believe parents do have rights regarding what types of things they're children are exposed to and/or not exposed to based on age. (don't get me started on the hap hazard parental controls for the internet)

Even just knowing what was cover so you can help your kid with their homework. usually, I can figure stuff out if I have access to it, but once sentence usually isn't enough.

thwayunion · 3 years ago
> I wish democrats would engage in this issue

But teacher and admin time isn't free. People with high political media engagement have lost their damn minds and are now offended about everything. Including thousand year old statues, apparently.

No one gives a shit if your pull your kid out of a class, but everyone -- including LOTS of clued-in conservatives -- are sick of teachers/admins/boards spending too much time holding the hands of parents who spend too much time reading political news and not enough time working on their emotional regulation skills.

If you want to control what your kid sees, YOU need to do more work. If you want more information, YOU need to review your kid's materials. If you want access to more than every other parent is provided, then YOU need to do the work of getting that material and deciding what your kid will see. It's called parenting.

If you want to curate your kid's educational experience, then put in the fucking work and stop demanding use of my tax dollars and my kid's instructional time to satiate your neuroses.

(Also: your innocent little middle school angel is definitely talking about boobies and balls recess.... because, y'know, they're middle schoolers and that is what middle schoolers do. But we'll pretend they don't as long as you stop stealing time and money from us.)

> don't get me started on the hap hazard parental controls for the internet

You can buy all sorts of software, but no amount of law or regulation is going to solve the problem of the internet being the internet.

thwayunion commented on Florida parents upset by Michelangelo’s ‘David’ force out principal   washingtonpost.com/educat... · Posted by u/mirthlessend
brobdingnagians · 3 years ago
Have you ever met a kid who was excited about doing math the Common Core way?

One of the issues with Common Core Math is that it really teaches children to jump through the hoops of diagramming the way the book says to do it (and that way is cumbersome), not actually solve problems or understand concepts. People model ideas differently, Common Core requires one overly pedantic way of doing it, for the intelligent who figure out a better underlying representation, the Common Core Math Way(!) is drudgery. That just means more hatred for mathematics. It would be better to show examples and ideas, get interest and excitement, then formalize, but formalize in a way that is useful later on.

Mathematics _is_ exciting, it is a puzzle. Teaching should reflect that.

thwayunion · 3 years ago
Common Core is just a set of standards. This is a bit like criticizing the API because one specific implementation of the API is garbage; you may be right, or wrong, but what you're criticizing is not relevant to the API design, at least at the first order.

Some publisher's course materials may fit your criticism. Lots of expensive garbage in K12.

The material I reviewed was quite the opposite. Instead of memorizing one way of performing an operation, you learn many different ones, discuss why one might be better than the other in certain contexts, and even think through why two different algorithms implement the same operation. The students I worked with/observed emerged from high school with a level of mathematical maturity that most students don't achieve until well after their university Calculus sequence, if ever.

Two other thoughts:

1. Everything you just described also describes how most schools implemented mathematics education prior to common core. If this is how someone taught with common core, it's almost 100% certain that this is also how they taught before common core, and that this is how they would teach mathematics regardless of what standards they were following. What you are describing is a bad mathematics educator, which is a serious problem in the USA but is orthogonal to choice of standards.

2. Most importantly, I never got even an articulation at this level of detail. People were angry because pundits told them to be angry. There were no articulated reasons. Just, "CC = bad".

thwayunion commented on Florida parents upset by Michelangelo’s ‘David’ force out principal   washingtonpost.com/educat... · Posted by u/mirthlessend
thwayunion · 3 years ago
The article does mention they used a curriculum from Hillsdale College, so I wouldn't be surprised if there's some general creepiness imbued into the course design.

That said, I can teach an entire course on statistics without mentioning penis size. Even a single use of this example has "middle school boy turned creepy old man" energy. But I imagine it'd be difficult to make it through a semester of a Classics/Renaissance-focused art course without covering at least one or two of David, The Creation of Adam, and Birth of Venus. Each is a master piece of an era and medium...

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thwayunion commented on Florida parents upset by Michelangelo’s ‘David’ force out principal   washingtonpost.com/educat... · Posted by u/mirthlessend
arthurcolle · 3 years ago
Have these people heard of dice? Or coins? Just wow
thwayunion · 3 years ago
> dice? Or coins?

The labs were about these things (and cards), and therefore gambling. We had to do purely abstract labs instead. The issue is that probability is hard to teach even with visceral physical examples of sampling from distributions.

thwayunion commented on Florida parents upset by Michelangelo’s ‘David’ force out principal   washingtonpost.com/educat... · Posted by u/mirthlessend
thwayunion · 3 years ago
The issue with "Parental rights are supreme" is that there are tons of parents whose demands will make it impossible for your kid to learn much of anything.

In our district, we had to put AP CS on hold because apparently RNGs are too close to gambling and gambling is sinful. You can't even get through the Java standard library without angering the religious right these days.

They threw a huge fit about Common Core Math as well (as a working mathematician -- and one with some amount of passing experience in teaching mathematics at that -- I could never get those parents to articulate what the actual problem was... AFAICT some TV pundit told them to be angry about math).

I wonder if these parents realize that about half of the middle schoolers in Florida not only have seen a penis, but have one of their very own!

BTW, the possibility that this was about inter-personal feuds rather than David just strengthens the point. Giving every parent potential veto power over anything that happens in school is a good way of making sure that nothing will happen in school.

Some teacher makes a valid criticism of your child's classmate during a parent-teacher conference, the parent takes it personally, the spat escalates, the course is derailed. By the time you find out WTF is even happening, your kid is already half a grade level behind in every subject. Rinse and repeat the next school year.

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