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thunspa commented on I watched Gemini CLI hallucinate and delete my files   anuraag2601.github.io/gem... · Posted by u/anuraag2601
BuildTheRobots · a month ago
I've found some of my interactions with Gemini Pro 2.5 to be extremely surreal.

I asked it to help me turn a 6 page wall of acronyms into a CV tailored to a specific job I'd seen and the response from Gemini was that I was over qualified, it was under paid and that really, I was letting myself down. It was surprisingly brutal about it.

I found a different job that although I really wanted, felt I was underqualified for. I only threw it at Gemini as a moment of 3am spite, thinking it'd give me another reality check, this time in the opposite direction. Instead it hyped me up, helped me write my CV to highlight how their wants overlapped with my experience, and I'm now employed in what's turning out to be the most interesting job of my career with exciting tech and lovely people.

I found the whole experience extremely odd. and never expected it to actually argue with or reality check me. Very glad it did though.

thunspa · a month ago
unexpected AI W. Congratulations on the new job!
thunspa commented on LLM Inevitabilism   tomrenner.com/posts/llm-i... · Posted by u/SwoopsFromAbove
evantbyrne · a month ago
To the contrary. I sped through my compsci capstone coursework first year of college and spent most of the rest of my time in philosophy, psychology, and sociology classrooms. The "hey if you squint this thing it looks like religion for the non-religious" perspective is just one I've heard countless times. It is perfectly valid to have a fact based discussion on whether there is a biological desire for religiosity, but drawing a long line from that to broadly critique someone's well-articulated ideas is pretty sloppy.
thunspa · a month ago
> The "hey if you squint this thing it looks like religion for the non-religious" perspective is just one I've heard countless times

To be fair, we shouldn't bundle Augustine and Thomas Aquinas with John MacArthur and Joel Osteen. Meaning that some religious thought is more philosophically robust than other religious thought.

thunspa commented on LLM Inevitabilism   tomrenner.com/posts/llm-i... · Posted by u/SwoopsFromAbove
andai · a month ago
Maybe not a god, but we're intentionally designing artificial minds greater than ours, and we intend to give them control of the entire planet. While also expecting them to somehow remain subservient to us (or is that part just lip service)?
thunspa · a month ago
What makes an artificial mind greater than ours?

Do you assume that someone will stumble into creating a person, but with unlimited memory and computational power?

Otherwise, if we are able to create this person using our knowledge, we will most certainly be able to augment humans with those capabilities.

thunspa commented on LLM Inevitabilism   tomrenner.com/posts/llm-i... · Posted by u/SwoopsFromAbove
dontlikeyoueith · a month ago
> I just wanted to say LLMs with MCP are definitely good enough for almost every use case you can come up with as long as you can provide them with high quality context.

This just shows you lack imagination.

I have a lot of use cases that they are not good enough for.

thunspa · a month ago
I mean, it all depends on how one defines "high quality context".
thunspa commented on LLM Inevitabilism   tomrenner.com/posts/llm-i... · Posted by u/SwoopsFromAbove
thewebguyd · a month ago
> a much larger number are using them as an excuse for layoffs they would have wanted to do anyway

It's a simple formula. Layoffs because of market conditions or company health = stock price go down. Layoffs because "AI took the jobs" = stock price go up.

thunspa · a month ago
This never occurred to me, but it is a brilliant take.
thunspa commented on The Grug Brained Developer (2022)   grugbrain.dev/... · Posted by u/smartmic
phito · 2 months ago
Yes, it's perfectly doable even if you're doing microservices. Not being able to debug your application is an engineering failure.
thunspa · 2 months ago
can you say more? how do you do it?
thunspa commented on Scrappy – Make little apps for you and your friends   pontus.granstrom.me/scrap... · Posted by u/8organicbits
nilirl · 2 months ago
It's nice but I've yet to see a more usable end-user programming environment than the spreadsheet.
thunspa · 2 months ago
Or learning to actually code. I can't see why I would ever learn to use these kinds of tools.

As a developer, I can just make it myself. Now with LLMs, if it's very simple and bounded, I can just vibe most of it with very little to lose.

As a lay person, I don't see what the TAM for this is. Who will spend the time to learn how to drag and drop an application?

thunspa commented on How I program with agents   crawshaw.io/blog/programm... · Posted by u/bumbledraven
Joof · 3 months ago
Isn't that the point of agents?

Assume we have excellent test coverage -- the AI can write the code and ensure get the feedback for it being secure / fast / etc.

And the AI can help us write the damn tests!

thunspa · 3 months ago
Saw Rich Hickey say this, that it is a known fact that tested code never has bugs.

On a more serious note: how could anyone possibly ever write meaningful tests without a deep understanding of the code that is being written?

thunspa commented on How I program with agents   crawshaw.io/blog/programm... · Posted by u/bumbledraven
rco8786 · 3 months ago
What’s not clear to me is how agents/AI written code solves the “half hearted review” problem.

People don’t like to do code reviews because it sucks. It’s tedious and boring.

I genuinely hope that we’re not giving up the fun parts of software, writing code, and in exchange getting a mountain of code to read and review instead.

thunspa · 3 months ago
Yes, this is what I'm fearing as well.

That we will end up just trying to review code, writing tests and some kind of specifications in natural language (which is very imprecise)

However, I can't see how this approach would ever scale to a larger project.

thunspa commented on Why agents are bad pair programmers   justin.searls.co/posts/wh... · Posted by u/sh_tomer
almosthere · 3 months ago
I think coding will eventually go away in favor of models with metadata built around them.

How many times did you have a mutation operation where you had to hand code the insert of 3 or 4 entities and make sure they all come back successful, or you back out properly (and perhaps this is without a transaction, perhaps over multiple databases).

Make sure the required fields are present Grab the created inserted ID Rinse, repeat

Or if you're mutating a list, writing code that inserts a new element, but you don't know which one is new. And you end up, again, hand coding loops and checking what you remember to check.

What about when you need to do an auth check.

And the hand coder may fail to remember one little thing somewhere.

With LLM code, you can just describe that function and it will remember to do all the things.

An LLM with a model + metadata - we won't really need to think of it as editing User.java or User.py anymore. Instead User.yaml - and the LLM will just consume that, and build out ALL of your required biz-logic, and be done with it. It could create a fully authenticating/authorizing REST API + GraphQL API with sane defaults - and consistent notions throughout.

And moving into UIs- we can have the same thing. The UI can be described in an organized way. What fields are required for user registration. What fields are optional according to the backend. It's hard to visualize this future, but I think it's a no-code future. It's models of requirements instead.

thunspa · 3 months ago
In writing the code that is supposed to implement my idea, I find that my idea has many flaws.

Sending that idea to an LLM (in absence of AGI) seems like a great way to find out about the flaws too late.

Otherwise, specifying an application in such detail as to obtain the same effect is essentially coding, just in natural language, which is less precise.

u/thunspa

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