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thunderfork commented on Cert Authorities Check for DNSSEC from Today   grepular.com/Cert_Authori... · Posted by u/zdw
indolering · 5 hours ago
You haven't been a web developer since you posted that article either, since you won't retract silly arguments on your website:

"Government Controlled PKI!"

- Governments own the domains, you just rent them. They can kick your site off and validate their HTTPS certs regardless of DNSSEC.

"Weak Crypto!"

- 1K key sizes were fine given the threat model required cracking one in a year. They have since been increased.

"DNSSEC Doesn’t Protect Against MITM Attacks"

- DNSSEC protects against MITM attacks!

- It's just that most clients don't perform local validation due to low adoption.

- In reality, you are just making the circular argument to NOT adopt DNSSEC because adoption is low.

- There are LOTS more MITM opportunities with HTTPS. We spent a massive effort on cert transparency, yet even Cloudflare missed a rouge cert being issued.

"There are Better Alternatives to DNSSEC"

- There is no alternative to signing domain name data and you point to crypto systems that do something other than that.

- "There are better alternatives to HTTPS: E2E JS crypto with trust on first use"

- What about SSH? I guess we are doomed to run everything over HTTPS and pay dumb cert authorities for the privilege of doing so.

"Bloats record sizes"

- ECC sigs can be sent in a single packet.

- Caching makes first connect latency irrelevant.

On and on and on. These are trivially refutable but you just shut the conversation down and point out instances of downtime ... as if DNS doesn't cause a lot of downtime anyaway.

thunderfork · 5 hours ago
>It's just that most clients don't perform local validation due to low adoption.

From your link elsewhere, https://easydns.com/blog/2015/08/06/for-dnssec/

>We might see a day when HTTPS key pinning and the preload list is implemented across all major browsers, but we will never see these protections applied in a uniform fashion across all major runtime environments (Node.js, Java, .NET, etc.)[...]

Is this not the same flaw?

thunderfork commented on Ask HN: How is AI-assisted coding going for you professionally?    · Posted by u/svara
hapticmonkey · 11 hours ago
I’m a UX designer not a coder, but this is so bizarre to me because shouldn’t every project be doing something novel? Otherwise why does it exist? If this industry is so full of people independently writing the same stuff that AI can replicate it…then it was a vast misallocation of resources to begin with.
thunderfork · 8 hours ago
Sometimes the novelty lives in a different part of the problem. (e.g. a service that does basic bog standard web forms, but for some novel purpose)
thunderfork commented on Swiss e-voting pilot can't count 2,048 ballots after decryption failure   theregister.com/2026/03/1... · Posted by u/jjgreen
zahlman · 5 days ago
Americans who make this link to racism are welcome to explain why the same argument gets zero traction in Canadian politics, even among the most left-wing parties.
thunderfork · 4 days ago
Canadian legislators don't have a history of setting arbitrary restrictions on what counts as voter ID, whereas American politicians seem absurdly fixated on it for ~some reason~.

You can look up the Canadian list of accepted identification documents if you want the full thing, but it includes library cards, public transit cards, correspondence from educational institutions, student IDs, blood donor cards, letters of confirmation of residence from shelters and soup kitchens, residential leases or utility bills, and personal cheques.

You can also vote without ID in Canada by having a guarantor with ID vouch for you.

Contrast the proposed SAVE act, which accepts... passports, birth certificates, naturalization documents, and "REAL ID-compliant documents that also indicate citizenship", which is a fun one.

thunderfork commented on Swiss e-voting pilot can't count 2,048 ballots after decryption failure   theregister.com/2026/03/1... · Posted by u/jjgreen
spiddy · 5 days ago
you don’t need to be an aviation expert to trust the plane will fly.

likewise e-voting systems pass through cryptography experts auditing to verify it does what it says it does.

said that the voting solution can also provide cryptographic proof that your vote was unaltered, and accounted for, without need to expose your actual vote.

the claims about database altering, are also false as the vote is cryptographically signed and unalterable.

also there is another feature where you can recast vote on top of your previous one and the last vote will be the valid one. This is crucial for countries where the bad guys can come at your place and under distress (gun) force your vote. you can then recast safely invalidating the forced vote.

e-voting solutions is really interesting and in an alternate reality I think we could have had a mainstream e-voting and more even direct-democracy vs our current democracy by proxy (elected officials)

thunderfork · 4 days ago
>you don’t need to be an aviation expert to trust the plane will fly.

...because when I get on the plane, I can look out the window and see that it's in the air.

With paper ballots, the systems are very interpretable - you can sign up to audit the ballot counting process and watch it happen, etc.

But you can't do that with electrons in a computer - it's really just pure trust. That's what you lose.

thunderfork commented on Debian decides not to decide on AI-generated contributions   lwn.net/SubscriberLink/10... · Posted by u/jwilk
pixl97 · 5 days ago
You see where this becomes a religious like argument right? Since it's secretly and sneakily there is no way to measure it. So as far as any other participant knows there is no measurable difference, hence your argument depends on said agents to be 'pure' and 'true', hence the exact definition of the no true Scotsman fallacy.

I hope you see how this quickly will advance from a project being about accomplishing some goal, to a project becoming about humans showing they are the ones writing code. Much like we see in religions where people don't give money to the poor to benefit the poor, but show they give money to the poor to benefit themselves. Hence the game playing will continue and the underlying problem will never be addressed.

thunderfork · 5 days ago
The point of the rule isn't enforcement, it's setting standards for good-faith contributors.

Your assumption that all rules must be about enforcement is incorrect. Your assumption that only that which can be measured matters is incorrect. I don't know where this belief system comes from, but it strikes me as profoundly toxic.

By this logic, we obviously shouldn't ban drinking and driving - there's no way to test every driver every time, and presumably those most skilled at drunk driving would be undetectable, so it's really just religious moralism.

"Good drivers don't drink and drive even if they think they can get away with it" is just a no-true-scotsman argument, and thus we should actually encourage people to drink and drive so that they get better at it. Nobody should ever have any standards that can't be automatically enforced by a linter, after all.

And look: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47340079

Unenforceable rules might just be the backbone of society, if you think about it.

thunderfork commented on Debian decides not to decide on AI-generated contributions   lwn.net/SubscriberLink/10... · Posted by u/jwilk
pixl97 · 6 days ago
Ah, the no true Scotsman theory.
thunderfork · 6 days ago
Arguing that "doesn't secretly, sneakily break project rules" is an essential component of a quality contributor isn't a "no true scotsman" argument, it's a statement about qualifications
thunderfork commented on Is legal the same as legitimate: AI reimplementation and the erosion of copyleft   writings.hongminhee.org/2... · Posted by u/dahlia
bmcahren · 7 days ago
LLMs do not encode nor encrypt their training data. The fact they can recite training data is a defect not a default. You can understand this more simply by calculating the model size as an inverse of a fantasy compression algorithm that is 50% better than SOTA. You'll find you'd still be missing 80-90% of the training data even if it were as much of a stochastic parrot as you may be implying. The outputs of AI are not derivative just because they saw training data including the original library.

Then onto prompting: 'He fed only the API and (his) test suite to Claude'

This is Google v Oracle all over again - are APIs copyrightable?

thunderfork · 7 days ago
I find the "compression" argument not very strong, both because copyright still applies to (very) lossy codecs (e.g. your 16kbps Opus file of Thriller infringes, even if the original 192khz/32bit wav file was 12,000kbps), and because copyright still applies to transformed derivative works (a tiny midi file of Thriller might still be enough for the Jackson's label to get you)
thunderfork commented on The window chrome of our discontent   pxlnv.com/blog/window-chr... · Posted by u/zdw
fragmede · 7 days ago
Given than Adobe has their own GenAI trained on work licensed for that purpose in Photoshop, I think they would disagree with you on that.
thunderfork · 7 days ago
Offering to add it to the workflow doesn't mean they think it can replace the whole product for all users - if they stop shipping the rest of the features, then that'd be Adobe "disagreeing with me on that".
thunderfork commented on The window chrome of our discontent   pxlnv.com/blog/window-chr... · Posted by u/zdw
observationist · 7 days ago
Breaking free is easier than ever. You don't need walled gardens.

AI is making handling the edge cases that kept people locked in almost trivial. Any workflow, custom spreadsheet, specific OS-only app can be worked around, easily. Staying stuck on Apple or Microsoft is a choice - they're no longer returning value concurrent with the money they charge.

You're free to continue giving them money, but the reasons to do so make less and less sense each day that goes by.

thunderfork · 7 days ago
"Adobe Creative Suite not running on Linux can be worked around easily" is something that people have been getting wrong for decades, but injecting AI into the premise is a new frontier of funny.

What's the AI workaround for Illustrator/After Effects/etc.? You're not suggesting generating vector art or video assets via LLM replaces these, surely?

thunderfork commented on LibreOffice Writer now supports Markdown   blog.documentfoundation.o... · Posted by u/todsacerdoti
twirlip · 8 days ago
Back in the long-ago times, I saw ordinary people fight tooth-and-nail to keep their WordPerfect on DOS instead of switching to Windows and Word, despite it requiring those overlays kept above their keyboard function keys and being non-WYSIWYG. Ordinary people aren't neophiles, nor is Word especially intuitive. They simply want what that app to which they are familiar.
thunderfork · 8 days ago
There is value in familiar tools for familiar work. Someone typing letters to send to family is not intrinsically going be interested in, or see any benefit from, some paradigm shift to hypermedia-first document creation.

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