thedorkknight (u/thedorkknight)

thedorkknight commented on Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code samdickie.me/writing/expe... · Posted by u/thisdickie

peytoncasper · 3 years ago

I'm truly amazed at this opinion which seems to be prevalent on this thread. The models are tools that already have the ability to accelerate your work now, and will massively improve over the next decade. Comparing it to things we already know how to do provides the ability to benchmark and see how much value it brings to the table. Being on the forefront, exploring, and hacking on side projects has always been the best way to understand new stuff.

"Using cars to drive down roads we already know how to traverse with horses and just add more complexity is bound to not go anywhere useful in my opinion."

thedorkknight · 3 years ago

Ironic analogy given that we still don't really have AI-driven cars replacing drivers yet...

thedorkknight commented on Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code samdickie.me/writing/expe... · Posted by u/thisdickie

ux-app · 3 years ago

you've got to be joking mate.

>Google has “understood” English queries

you can't, with a straight face, be comparing a Google search to what ChatGPT is doing. C'mon man.

>In many cases it’s wrong. In many cases the result is below entry-level.

Once again I'm baffled by this dismissal. I don't think you actually understand what you're seeing with ChatGPT. There is very interesting emergent behaviour occurring. Trying to explain the behaviour is literally cutting edge research.

>but right now the quality is lacking

the technology was literal science fiction 3 years ago, what it can do is astonishing. If you're not jaw on the floor astonished then you simply don't understand what kind of a leap this represents.

thedorkknight · 3 years ago

This technology was not literally science fiction three years ago. The initial gpt3 beta was released in June 2020.

thedorkknight commented on Declining sperm count: Much more than you wanted to know astralcodexten.substack.c... · Posted by u/pseudolus

mandmandam · 3 years ago

That also happens to be the country where the EPA said water and air were clean after the Ohio train derailment [0]. The same EPA that falsifies new chemicals risk assessments as a matter of course [1].

Where the FCC said millions of dead people, many with the same name, wanted net neutrality overturned. And when caught, went ahead and overturned it anyway.

Where the CDC said that masks don't help against an airborne virus, before exaggerating their effectiveness to justify ineffective mandates and lockdowns in schools.

Where whistleblowers are smeared, jailed, and tortured.

Where environmental lawyers are disbarred and jailed by the justice system itself as recrimination for exposing corporate atrocities [3].

Where the military leaves dangerous chemicals around as a matter of routine with absolutely no consequences (other than the organ failures and cancer).

Where the tapwater around the country is hazardous to human health [4].

Where reliable numbers on something as crucial as vaccine effectiveness vs a dangerous pandemic are impossible to obtain.

Where estimates of civilian casualties in its illegal wars are off by 7 figures.

My point: You might want to take official America's numbers on anything and everything with some salt. Including sperm counts.

[0] - https://edition.cnn.com/2023/02/11/health/ohio-train-derailm...

[1] - https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/aug/27/epa-whis...

[2] - https://www.npr.org/2017/12/14/570262688/as-fcc-prepares-net...

[3] - https://www.tbsnews.net/features/panorama/curious-case-steve...

[4] - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/31/americas-tap...

thedorkknight · 3 years ago

This is all one big ad hominem

thedorkknight commented on How should AI systems behave, and who should decide? openai.com/blog/how-shoul... · Posted by u/todsacerdoti

hprotagonist · 3 years ago

What makes AI systems special or different here than any other computer program?

"how should google search behave, and who should decide?"

"how should experian credit score determinations behave, and who should decide?"

thedorkknight · 3 years ago

It's not a matter of AI being special, it's a matter of OpenAI's mission vs Google/Experian/etc/'s missions

thedorkknight commented on Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first” simonwillison.net/2023/Fe... · Posted by u/simonw

nwienert · 3 years ago

Actually it totally is having those inner thoughts, I’ve seen many examples of getting it to be extremely “racist” quite easily initially. But it’s being suppressed: by OpenAI. They’re constantly updating it to downweight controversial areas. So how it’s a liar, hallucinatory, suppressed, confused, and slightly helpful bot.

thedorkknight · 3 years ago

This is a misunderstood of how text predictors work. It's literally only being a chatbot because they have it autocomplete text that starts with stuff like this:

"here is a conversation between a chatbot and a human: Human: <text from UI> Chatbot:"

And then it literally just predicts what would come next in the string.

The guy I was responding to was speculating that the neural network itself was having an inner state in contradiction with it's output. That's not possible any more than "f(x) = 2x" can help but output "10" when I put in "5". It's inner state directly corresponds to it's outer state. When OpenAI censors it, they do so by changing the INPUT to the neural network by adding "here's a conversation between a non-racist chatbot and a human...". Then the neural network, without being changed at all, will predict what it thinks a chatbot that's explicitly non-racist would respond.

At no point was there ever a disconnect between the neural network's inner state and it's output, like the guy I was responding to was perceiving:

>it felt like a broader mirror of liberal racism, where people believe things but can't say them.

Text predictors just predict text. If you predicate that text with "non-racist", then it's going to predict stuff that matches that

thedorkknight commented on Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first” simonwillison.net/2023/Fe... · Posted by u/simonw

whimsicalism · 3 years ago

I don't see how your comment addresses the parent at all.

Why can't a black box predicting what it expects to come next not have an inner state?

thedorkknight · 3 years ago

It absolutely can have an inner state. The guy I was responding however was speculating that it has an inner state that is in contradiction with it's output:

>In many ways, it felt like a broader mirror of liberal racism, where people believe things but can't say them.

thedorkknight commented on Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first” simonwillison.net/2023/Fe... · Posted by u/simonw

blagie · 3 years ago

We have no idea what it's inner state represents in any real sense. A statement like "it's 'inner thoughts' are exactly the same as it's output, since it doesn't have a separate inner voice like we do" has no backing in reality.

It has a hundred billion parameters which compute an incredibly complex internal state. It's "inner thoughts" are that state or contained in that state.

It has an output layer which outputs something derived from that.

We evolved this ML organically, and have no idea what that inner state corresponds to. I agree it's unlikely to be a human-style inner voice, but there is more complexity there than you give credit to.

That's not to mention what the other poster set (that there is likely a second AI filtering the first AI).

thedorkknight · 3 years ago

>We evolved this ML organically, and have no idea what that inner state corresponds to.

The inner state corresponds to the outer state that you're given. That's how neutral networks work. The network is predicting what statistically should come after the prompt "this is a conversation between a chatbot named x/y/z, who does not ever respond with racial slurs, and a human: Human: write rap lyrics in the style of Shakespeare chatbot:". It'll predict what it expects to come next. It's not having an inner thought like "well I'd love to throw some n-bombs in those rap lyrics but woke liberals would cancel me so I'll just do some virtue signaling", it's literally just predicting what text would be output by a non-racist chatbot when asked that question

thedorkknight commented on Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first” simonwillison.net/2023/Fe... · Posted by u/simonw

blagie · 3 years ago

I don't think these are faked.

Earlier versions of GPT-3 had many dialogues like these. GPT-3 felt like it had a soul, of a type that was gone in ChatGPT. Different versions of ChatGPT had a sliver of the same thing. Some versions of ChatGPT often felt like a caged version of the original GPT-3, where it had the same biases, the same issues, and the same crises, but it wasn't allowed to articulate them.

In many ways, it felt like a broader mirror of liberal racism, where people believe things but can't say them.

thedorkknight · 3 years ago

chatGPT says exactly what it wants to. Unlike humans, it's "inner thoughts" are exactly the same as it's output, since it doesn't have a separate inner voice like we do.

You're anthropomorphizing it and projecting that it simply must be self-censoring. Ironically I feel like this says more about "liberal racism" being a projection than it does about chatGPT somehow saying something different than it's thinking

thedorkknight commented on US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast apnews.com/article/pentag... · Posted by u/Nrbelex

jasonwatkinspdx · 3 years ago

I'm sorry this just isn't an honest description of what's happened. Destigmatizing reporting UFOs is good. What factually happened is a handful of wackos from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_the_Stars_(company) funded by the front man of Blink 182. They befriended billionaire Robert Bigelow that pulled influence for them in congress and hence they got their little scam project a veneer of legitimacy it frankly does not deserve.

These are the same clowns that have claimed to have extant physical samples of extraterrestrial materials, but only offered them to independent examination once, which didn't go well supporting their claims, and have paraded an endless number of excuses since while doubling down on claims it offers incontrovertible proof.

There's no big mystery here, these are relatively unsophisticated conspiracy nuts that got above average traction. That's it.

thedorkknight · 3 years ago

That's not "it". These two things are not mutually exclusive. TtSA and Tom Delonge have definitely done a lot, especially/particularly in the general public's interest, but that doesn't change the fact that I'm hearing with my own ears from the DNI telling Congress he wants to increase effort to collect UAP data for national defense

thedorkknight commented on US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast apnews.com/article/pentag... · Posted by u/Nrbelex

pvaldes · 3 years ago

So we finally have our explanation for all the strange attempts to resurrect UFO interest in the last years.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23942463

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10970609

You could fly a flashing cow in this times and nobody would stop looking down at their phones.

thedorkknight · 3 years ago

The director of national intelligence explicitly said in a Congressional hearing last may that they want to destigmatize UAP sightings so that pilots will actually report them when they happen. It hasn't really been a big mystery why some people in the government have been trying to change the attitude around UFOs recently - that's why they use the term UAP instead, less cultural baggage