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straydusk commented on Coding agents have replaced every framework I used   blog.alaindichiappari.dev... · Posted by u/alainrk
rglover · 18 hours ago
A significant number of developers and businesses are going to have an absolutely brutal rude awakening in the not too distant future.

You can build things this way, and they may work for a time, but you don't know what you don't know (and experience teaches you that you only find most stuff by building/struggling; not sipping a soda while the AI blurts out potentially secure/stable code).

The hubris around AI is going to be hard to watch unwind. What the moment is I can't predict (nor do I care to), but there will be a shift when all of these vibe code only folks get cooked in a way that's closer to existential than benign.

Good time to be in business if you can see through the bs and understand how these systems actually function (hint: you won't have much competition soon as most people won't care until it's too late and will "price themselves out of the market").

straydusk · 17 hours ago
Have you considered that betting against the models and ecosystem improving might be a bad bet, and you might be the one who is in for a rude awakening?
straydusk commented on The Codex app illustrates the shift left of IDEs and coding GUIs   benshoemaker.us/writing/c... · Posted by u/straydusk
subsection1h · 3 days ago
> Never thought this would be something people actually take seriously

The author of the article has a bachelor's degree in economics[1], worked as a product manager (not a dev) and only started using GitHub[2] in 2025 when they were laid off[3].

[1] https://www.linkedin.com/in/benshoemaker000/

[2] https://github.com/benjaminshoemaker

[3] https://www.benshoemaker.us/about

straydusk · 3 days ago
I've written code since 2012, I just didn't put it online. It was a lot harder, so all my code was written internally, at work.

But sure, go with the ad hominem.

straydusk commented on The Codex app illustrates the shift left of IDEs and coding GUIs   benshoemaker.us/writing/c... · Posted by u/straydusk
prewett · 3 days ago
I really wish posts like this explained what sort of development they are doing. Is this for an internal CRUD server? Internal React app? Scala server with three instances? Golang server with complex AWS configuration? 10k lines? 100k lines? 1M+? Externally facing? iOS app? Algorithm-heavy photo processing desktop app? It would give me a much better idea of whether the argument is reasonable, and whether it is applicable for the kind of software I generally write.
straydusk · 3 days ago
You're completely right and I wish I had in retrospect... I was honestly just talking mostly in broad terms, but people really (maybe rightly) focused on the "not reading code" snippet.

I'm mostly developing my own apps and working with startups.

straydusk commented on The Codex app illustrates the shift left of IDEs and coding GUIs   benshoemaker.us/writing/c... · Posted by u/straydusk
bigwheels · 3 days ago
Why do the illustrations bear such a strong resemblance to those in the Gas Town article?

https://steve-yegge.medium.com/welcome-to-gas-town-4f25ee16d...

Is it a nano banana tendency or was it probably intentional?

straydusk · 3 days ago
It's nano banana - I actually noticed the same thing. I didn't prompt it as such.

Here's the prompt I used, actually:

Create a vibrant, visually dynamic horizontal infographic showing the spectrum of AI developer tools, titled "The Shift Left"

Layout: 5 distinct zones flowing RIGHT TO LEFT as a journey/progression. Use creative visual metaphors — perhaps a road, river, pipeline, or abstract flowing shapes connecting the stages. Each zone should feel like its own world but connected to the others.

Zones (LEFT to RIGHT):

1. "Specs" (leftmost) - Kiro logo, VibeScaffold logo, GitHub Spec Kit logo

   Label: "Requirements → Design → Tasks"


2. "Multi-Agent Orchestration" - Claude Code logo, Codex CLI logo, Codex App logo, Conductor logo

   Label: "Parallel agents, fire & forget"


3. "Agentic IDE" - Cursor logo, Windsurf logo

   Label: "Autonomous multi-file edits"


4. "Code + AI" - GitHub Copilot logo

   Label: "Inline suggestions"


5. "Code" (rightmost) - VS Code logo

   Label: "Read & write files"


Visual style: Fun, energetic, modern. Think illustrated tech landscape or isometric world. NOT a boring corporate chart. Use warm off-white background (#faf8f5) with amber/orange (#b45309) as the primary accent color throughout. Add visual flair — icons, small illustrations, depth, texture, but don't make it visually overloaded.

Aspect ratio: 16:9 landscape

straydusk commented on The Codex app illustrates the shift left of IDEs and coding GUIs   benshoemaker.us/writing/c... · Posted by u/straydusk
eikenberry · 3 days ago
I think many people are missing the overall meaning of these sorts of posts.. that is they are describing a new type of programmer that will only use agents and never read the underlying code. These vibe/agent coders will use natural(-ish) language to communicate with the agents and wouldn't look at the code anymore than, say, a PHP developer would look at the underlying assembly. It is not the level of abstraction they are working on. There are many use cases where this type of coding will work fine and it will let many people who previously couldn't really take advantage of computers to do so. This is great but in no way will do anything to replace the need for code that requires humans to understand (which, in turn, requires participation in the writing).
straydusk · 3 days ago
I'm glad you wrote this comment because I completely agree with it. I don't think that there is not a need for software engineers to deeply consider architecture; who can fully understand the truly critical systems that exist at most software companies; who can help dream up the harness capabilities to make these agents work better.

I just am describing what I'm doing now, and what I'm seeing at the leading edge of using these tools. It's a different approach - but I think it'll become the most common way of producing software.

straydusk commented on The Codex app illustrates the shift left of IDEs and coding GUIs   benshoemaker.us/writing/c... · Posted by u/straydusk
GalaxyNova · 4 days ago
> I don’t read code anymore

Never thought this would be something people actually take seriously. It really makes me wonder if in 2 - 3 years there will be so much technical debt that we'll have to throw away entire pieces of software.

straydusk · 3 days ago
I actually think this is fair to wonder about.

My overall stance on this is that it's better to lean into the models & the tools around them improving. Even in the last 3-4 months, the tools have come an incredible distance.

I bet some AI-generated code will need to be thrown away. But that's true of all code. The real questions to me are - are the velocity gains be worth it? Will the models be so much better in a year that they can fix those problems themselves, or re-write it?

I feel like time will validate that.

straydusk commented on The Codex app illustrates the shift left of IDEs and coding GUIs   benshoemaker.us/writing/c... · Posted by u/straydusk
letstango · 4 days ago
> The people really leading AI coding right now (and I’d put myself near the front, though not all the way there)

So humble. Who is he again?

straydusk · 3 days ago
When I talk with people in the space, go to meetups, present my work & toolset, I am usually one of the more advanced, but usually not THE most, people in the conversation / group. I'm not saying I'm some sort of genius, I'm just saying I'm relatively near the leading edge of how to use these tools. I feel like it's true.
straydusk commented on The Codex app illustrates the shift left of IDEs and coding GUIs   benshoemaker.us/writing/c... · Posted by u/straydusk
sho_hn · 3 days ago
At least going by their own CV, they've mostly written what sounds like small scripting-type programs described in grandiose terms like "data warehouse".

This blog post is influencer content.

straydusk · 3 days ago
Pretty unpopular influencer if that were the case
straydusk commented on The Codex app illustrates the shift left of IDEs and coding GUIs   benshoemaker.us/writing/c... · Posted by u/straydusk
sho_hn · 3 days ago
This blog post is written by a product manager, not a programmer. Their CV speaks to an Economics background, a stint in market research, writing small scripting-type programs ("Cron+MySQL data warehouse") and then off to the product management races.

What it's trying to express is that the (T)PM job still should still be safe because they can just team-lead a dozen agents instead of software developers.

Take with a grain of salt when it comes to relevance for "coding", or the future role breakdown in tech organizations.

straydusk · 3 days ago
That's me! I'm pretty open about that.

I'm not trying to express that my particular flavor of career is safe. I think that the ability to produce software is much less about the ability to hand-write code, and that's going to continue as the models and ecosystem improve, and I'm fascinated by where that goes.

straydusk commented on The Codex app illustrates the shift left of IDEs and coding GUIs   benshoemaker.us/writing/c... · Posted by u/straydusk
thefz · 4 days ago
I have always thought that AI code generation is an irresistible attraction for those personalities who lack the technical skills or knowledge necessary for programming, but nevertheless feel undeservedly like geniuses. This post is proof of that.

Also, the generated picture in this post makes me want to kick someone in the nuts. It doesn't explain anything.

straydusk · 3 days ago
Ouch lol.

Is the image really not that clear? There are IDE-like tools that all are focusing on different parts of the Spec --> Agent --> Code continuum. I think it illustrates that all right.

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