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stonesthrowaway commented on The Alpha Myth: How captive wolves led us astray   anthonydavidadams.substac... · Posted by u/ada1981
mattgreenrocks · a year ago
I find it fascinating that some users here seem to be attached to the concept of an alpha male, reality be damned. It’s clear that this meets some emotional/psychological need for them.

I regard it as a dangerous mind virus. It is hard to rid yourself of it even if you see it is bullshit and harming you because it requires a substantial change in how you see your life. I think that’s because it is some hard truths (“people like powerful people”) mixed in with some cognitive distortions (“dominance is the primary mediator of all interactions”). The lack of a true definition means there is no objective measure of what it is, which makes it impossible to feel secure in. Thus, the endless arguing about whether behavior is really “alpha” or “beta.”

There are good bits there, such as not letting yourself be pushed around. But that doesn’t make it all good or true. I really think the whole artifice is a cop-out for actually doing the work of individuation and self-development because you outsource all the hard work of deciding what you want to be and the temporary, self-imposed emotional exile it takes to actually discern that to following guidelines ultimately given to you by other people.

You’re still not crafting your own life, you’re just changing who you get your life script from.

It exploits psychological vulnerabilities in people and traps them: if you worry about your alpha/beta status, then you’ll be the type of person who wants to fix it, but there isn’t a fix because your perspective is the issue.

Hope that was helpful for someone.

stonesthrowaway · a year ago
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stonesthrowaway commented on The Alpha Myth: How captive wolves led us astray   anthonydavidadams.substac... · Posted by u/ada1981
robocat · a year ago
The fact the wolf alpha male theory was wrong doesn't imply we don't have alpha dominance for men.

Do we use alpha male gorillas to explain the concept?

(Edit) Or Chimpanzees: https://news.janegoodall.org/2018/07/10/top-bottom-chimpanze...

  The highest-ranking chimpanzee in a group is the alpha-male. These males climb their way to the top of the chimpanzee hierarchy, and the ways they choose to do so can differ with the personality of the individual leader. Take two of the alpha males observed in Gombe, Frodo and Freud, for instance. Though they were brothers, each chimp had a very different leadership style. While Freud maintained control through fostering strong alliances and grooming those he wanted to keep under his command, Frodo relied heavily on aggression and brute strength.

stonesthrowaway · a year ago
> The fact the wolf alpha male theory was wrong doesn't imply we don't have alpha dominance for men.

It isn't wrong. The headline is intentionally misleading and the article is just woke nonsense. Read it for yourself.

What the article is really saying that the alpha in a zoo wolfpack is different than an alpha in a wild wolfpack because a zoo wolfpack is between non-related wolves whilest in the wild, wolfpacks are composed of family members ( alpha father/alpha mother and children ).

There are alpha in wolf packs ( zoos and wild ). Just like in a human family the father/mother are alphas while in a gang, the alpha is usually a non-related individual.

The "myth" isn't that the alpha doesn't exist. The "myth" is about the relation of the alpha to the rest of the pack.

stonesthrowaway commented on The Impact of 25% Tariffs on Canadian GDP   stephaniekelton.substack.... · Posted by u/imichael
amatecha · a year ago
Whenever people talk about tariffs on Canadian goods I just remind them of the last time that happened. We slapped 'em back with similar tariffs and suddenly the US tariffs were lifted. https://www.canada.ca/en/department-finance/programs/interna... Not sure why buddy even talks about this because we have no problem doing the same thing.
stonesthrowaway · a year ago
> Whenever people talk about tariffs on Canadian goods I just remind them of the last time that happened.

You forget to mention that canada initially refused to renegotiate NAFTA as Trump demanded. But Canada ultimately did renegotiate NAFTA...

Also, canada is a tiny economy relative to the US. A genuine tariff war between the US and Canada wouldn't end so well for canada.

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