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rollthehard6 commented on WordPerfect for Unix character terminals   github.com/taviso/wpunix... · Posted by u/metadat
skissane · 3 years ago
> Lotus Notes was very big for a while too before the web killed it off.

I think the architecture of Notes/Domino was technically very interesting - a rapid application development environment incorporating a replicated document-oriented database, cross-platform GUI forms designer, and scripting language.

And then that environment was used to build an email and calendaring application. Some customers bought it just for email and calendar, and ignored its potential as a platform for custom applications. Others used its application development features heavily.

But I think part of its decline was that its potential as an application development environment/platform never received enough emphasis from IBM. IBM bought it for the email and calendaring - their mainframe-based groupware line (OfficeVision, PROFS, DISOSS, SNADS, etc) was really showing its age, and buying Lotus was their answer to that business problem. And that’s how they positioned it in the market, and that became the focus of their R&D investment.

I remember people used to complain about how the Notes email UI was confusing - due to its cross-platform heritage, it didn’t use the same keyboard shortcuts as Microsoft apps, for example. (Something I believe they improved in newer versions.) Yet underneath that email client lay something powerful that its competitors (primarily Exchange and GroupWise) completely lacked

I wonder what might have been, if IBM had positioned it more heavily as a platform for applications rather than just email+calendar - or if it had ended up with someone other than IBM? IBM didn’t really need an application platform because they already owned plenty (WebSphere, CICS, IMS, TPF, AS/400, VisualAge, Informix-4GL, Rational, SAA ADCycle, Cross System Product, UniData/UniVerse, EGL, PowerHouse 4GL, etc). Maybe it would have gone better with a company for whom it was their sole or primary application platform instead of just one among many?

I’ve heard some suggestions that now HCL has bought it, they have a renewed interest in using it as an application platform compared to what IBM had. Even if that’s true, probably too late to make much of a difference-there are so many other options nowadays, arguably better.

rollthehard6 · 3 years ago
What you've said is pretty much what I always say about Notes, it was much more than Outlook and when Outlook took over I often wondered what folks did for all the things that Notes did that weren't just email and calendar. I wonder what is comparable now in the ability for someone not very technical to be able to knock up, say a simple change approval system? It sometimes seems with the loss of such things as Notes, Foxpro and Hypercard that it has become less easy for non-dev folks to create simple apps rather than more easy.
rollthehard6 commented on WordPerfect for Unix character terminals   github.com/taviso/wpunix... · Posted by u/metadat
nurettin · 3 years ago
I wonder what they used instead of outlook
rollthehard6 · 3 years ago
Before Outlook there were many, many options, which is kind of the point. You might be intrigued by something like All-In-1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALL-IN-1 My own first email client was VMS Mail at uni in 1988, then pine when I started to use SunOS and Solaris every day for work. Lotus Notes was very big for a while too before the web killed it off.
rollthehard6 commented on AWS Creates New Policy-Based Access Control Language Cedar   infoq.com/news/2023/02/aw... · Posted by u/msolujic
lozenge · 3 years ago
It seems like AWS isn't good with cross cutting concerns. Eg instead of Cloudformation being part of a service during development, that they could even use during testing the service, every team creates a custom api and cf is an afterthought. It wouldn't surprise me if every service is also evaluating against iam policies independently as well.
rollthehard6 · 3 years ago
That reminds me of the latter stages of Sun Microsystems, where it seemed like multiple teams were developing competing solutions for system management and patching. Seems a wasteful model and not one that is servicing customers.
rollthehard6 commented on AWS Creates New Policy-Based Access Control Language Cedar   infoq.com/news/2023/02/aw... · Posted by u/msolujic
krab · 3 years ago
For me personally, it would be much more useful if I could play with the policies interactively - issue requests with some tagging (a special access key maybe?) and see what permissions they need, what context they have and which of them are allowed/denied by the policies. And what if I edit this part, would it affect the recorded requests?

At the moment, it usually takes me several iterations to tune the policy.

rollthehard6 · 3 years ago
So much this, I don't understand why cloud providers don't offer an easy way to view this sort of thing as really it should all be in the logging anyway.
rollthehard6 commented on Rick Beato on AI in Music   youtube.com/watch?v=6IV29... · Posted by u/rollthehard6
rollthehard6 · 3 years ago
Rick Beato musing on a Billy Corgan comment on how AI is going to replace musicians. Will we be just be left with a front person to present the music, whose vocals are auto tuned?
rollthehard6 commented on The medieval habit of ‘two sleeps’   bbc.com/future/article/20... · Posted by u/shrumm
rollthehard6 · 4 years ago
I sometimes have 3 - 1 at the normal time, interrupted by needing a pee (Age/male/kidney disease), then a second interrupted by the elder of my two dogs needing a pee and a third short one until work time. Not ideal!
rollthehard6 commented on BBC QED 1984 looks back at 1948, as far away then as 1984 is now   youtube.com/watch?v=qmR3c... · Posted by u/rollthehard6
rollthehard6 · 4 years ago
Interesting in particular in the conclusion talking about jobs and automation, a familiar concern now as then.
rollthehard6 commented on Why is Middle School so hard?   theatlantic.com/education... · Posted by u/laurex
virusduck · 6 years ago
Something something four-twenties...
rollthehard6 · 6 years ago
Oh yeah, the Swiss French way is a lot less confusing.

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