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qwery commented on Australia begins enforcing world-first teen social media ban   reuters.com/legal/litigat... · Posted by u/chirau
PurpleRamen · 10 days ago
> It becomes "This is a problem, therefore the solution is good", without questioning the solution itself.

This is a very simplified view. The topic has been disputed for years, and societies has tried to find alternative solutions. But turns out, there is no other well enough working solution at the moment, hence the nuclear option. And sometimes that is the only working option anyway.

Should be noted, this is not a first. Social Media has already been restricted to various degree for kids of certain ages in several countries. Australia is just raising the age from the usual 12, 13 up to 16.

> I find myself agreeing with everything said, and then, suddenly, seemingly out of nowhere, the article pivots to "therefore we need completely 24/7 mass surveillance of everyone at all times and we need to eradicate freedom of speech".

So it's a poor article, so what? These attempts are not new. There are regularly political attempts pushing towards stricter regulations and more surveillance. Some work, some not.

> That article is like a perfect microcosm of this entire international shift in internet privacy.

There is no shift. Those views have always been there, even before the internet. This is a normal part of societies, including democratic. There is a constant power-struggle between control and liberty in any society, and the balance is always shifting depending on how good or bad certain problems are at that moment.

But a certain thing which is missing here BTW is a complete ban of all open media, for everyone in all ages and groups. For Government, kids on social media are not a big problem, that will only bite them in the decades to come. But people now, today, who are getting radicalized against the standing order, those are a problem. And nobody demanding for a ban is good sign for a healthy enough democracy. Because think about in which countries this is not the case..

qwery · 10 days ago
> So it's a poor article, so what?

I believe their point was to illustrate the disconnect between the problem and the solution. They agree with the problem, and experienced "whiplash" when the solution was described.

> For Government, kids on social media are not a big problem, that will only bite them in the decades to come.

In Australia the kids on social media are a problem for the government, today. A 16 year old is less than two years away from voting. Successive governments have laughed at the idea of lowering the voting age to 16 or 17. The government has very little influence on social media -- this is different to older forms of media / communication.

qwery commented on Australia begins enforcing world-first teen social media ban   reuters.com/legal/litigat... · Posted by u/chirau
rhubarbtree · 10 days ago
Well, no one is suggesting 24/7 surveillance, we’re suggesting banning children from using social media, as it has demonstrably very harmful effects on their education and wellbeing.

It’s not Orwellian. If it were, then not allowing kids to vote or drink before they become adults would be Orwellian.

We are simply banning kids from a harmful activity until they are old enough to decide for themselves. The ban has to be at a social level decided by the democratic process, because there’s a coordination problem here: it’s not a harm that can be remedied at the level of the individual.

The real villains here are the social media companies that have profited from the misery and manipulation of children, to their ultimate harm.

I find it hard to believe anyone would argue in good faith against this ban. In tech circles there are a lot of vested interests that don’t want other governments to protect the children in their countries from harmful products. Shame on them.

qwery · 10 days ago
> I find it hard to believe anyone would argue in good faith against this ban.

This is a problem. You will not accept an argument against the ban.

Instead you paint anyone presenting any opposition to any part of it as a stooge of predatory businesses.

> We are simply [...]

It's a simple idea, but the implementation is anything but.

> The real villains here are the social media companies [...]

They're getting out of this easy. You're giving them a free pass.

Tax them. Sue them.

Hold them liable for the content they show users.

Ban social media for children without empowering the social media companies or the government.

qwery commented on Female spies are waging 'sex warfare' to steal Silicon Valley secrets   thetimes.com/us/american-... · Posted by u/nreece
qwery · 2 months ago
When a news article has an outrageous headline it's usually not worth reading.

This article jumps right in the deep end, quoting a Silicon Valley insider:

> I’m getting an enormous number of very sophisticated LinkedIn requests from the same type of attractive young Chinese woman,

Now on the first read you might think "is that it?" -- is this seriously what the article is about? But the same insider also said:

> It really seems to have ramped up recently.

So yeah, like I said.

qwery commented on Is Sora the beginning of the end for OpenAI?   calnewport.com/is-sora-th... · Posted by u/warrenm
tmaly · 2 months ago
We were promised AGI and all we are getting is Bob Ross coloring on the walls of a Target store.

The app is fun to use for about 10 minutes then that is it.

Same goes for Grok imagine. All people want to do is generate NSFW content.

What happened to improving the world?

qwery · 2 months ago
I apologise for talking past the point you're making, but, Bob Ross was a human being, you know, with thoughts and stuff. How could any of these AI toys possibly compare?

I would love to have Bob Ross, wielding a crayon, add some happy little trees to the walls of a Target.

qwery commented on Video game union workers rally against $55B private acquisition of EA   eurogamer.net/ea-union-wo... · Posted by u/ksec
bko · 2 months ago
I don't think you need to "justify layoffs". If a company feels an employee is not being productive, they should be allowed to let them go. Same way if an employee feels he is getting underpaid or wants to work somewhere else, they should be allowed to leave.

I've actually always liked working for companies in which the objective was straight forward. None of this "we're a family" stuff. You should be kind, and all the places I was at were kind. But layoffs are a reality and reducing headcount at times is part of that. You need a way to get rid of dead wood, otherwise you would be too afraid to grow and hire when you need to.

qwery · 2 months ago
The term 'layoffs' in this context is simply not what you're describing. These layoffs occur at such scale that it's unreasonable to assume any individual employee being "let go" has even been evaluated as an individual.

And, yes, of course layoffs are something that need to be justified, just as with firing an individual employee, as you know -- the "employee is not being productive" is a justification.

qwery commented on Just let me select text   aartaka.me/select-text.ht... · Posted by u/ayoisaiah
qwery · 3 months ago
I too am a selector of text. I select text for many valid reasons. I have never selected text for an invalid reason.

A lot of websites include (anti-)features that make it extremely difficult for me to read and this severely limits the amount that I interact with the site. Features that hijack text selection in some way or preventing it entirely for whatever misguided reason are some of the worst offenders. Yes, I realise that not everything is for me -- I am getting that message loud and clear.

Preventing text selection is one of the most egregious and hostile ways to make your software unfriendly, but those insidious "share this quote" popout drawers are slowly fading in right behind it[0], hyperactively reflowing the layout and appending random snippets of selected text to the URL.

Reading is the most basic, most fundamental way to interact with the web. It's fundamental to using software in general. It seems to be necessary to point out that 'reading' and 'looking at' are not interchangeable terms. Frankly, designers should know better.

[0] Except they're not, because you can't select the text, obviously.

qwery commented on The issue of anti-cheat on Linux (2024)   tulach.cc/the-issue-of-an... · Posted by u/todsacerdoti
qwery · 4 months ago
The dismissal of the security concerns is pretty shallow.

I don't know how many vulnerable drivers the average gamer has installed. I'm sure 'at least some' is a safe assumption. The issue I have with this is that although it may be expected, I don't find it acceptable.

The article presents having this exploitable software on your computer as benign. I don't think that's a particularly healthy attitude, especially in an article oriented towards a more general audience.

The author hasn't had a problem with the anti-cheat software that they like. This is not an argument for why this is a good solution, or why kernel-level anti-cheat is not a security risk. Further, normalising software vulnerabilities weakens whatever case is being made. The more acceptable it is to have broken, exploitable software installed, the more acceptable it will be to ship anti-cheat software that is broken and exploitable.

By the way, on trust: having trust in the vendor is ... inadvisable. I'm not saying it's guaranteed to backfire, but it can only backfire in one direction. The situation in which you trust an entity with goals that are (at best) unaligned with your own is better described as one where they have leverage over you.

qwery commented on Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?   lock.cmpxchg8b.com/anubis... · Posted by u/taviso
1gn15 · 4 months ago
> In other words, who said the websites in question wanted to entirely prevent crawlers from accessing them? The answer is: no one. Web crawlers are and have been fundamental to accessing the web for decades. So why are we talking about trying to do that?

I agree, but the advertising is the whole issue. "Checking to see you're not a bot!" and all that.

Therefore some people using Anubis expect it to be an impenetrable wall, to "block AI scrapers", especially those that believe it's a way for them to be excluded from training data.

It's why just a few days ago there was a HN frontpage post of someone complaining that "AI scrapers have learnt to get past Anubis".

But that is a fight that one will never win (analog hole as the nuclear option).

If it said something like "Wait 5 seconds, our servers are busy!", I would think that people's expectations will be more accurate.

As a robot I'm really not that sympathetic to anti-bot language backfiring on humans. I have to look away every time it comes up on my screen. If they changed their language and advertising, I'll be more sympathetic -- it's not as if I disagree that overloading servers for not much benefit is bad!

qwery · 4 months ago
Yeah, I think it's obviously a pretty natural conclusion to draw, that {thing for hinder crawler} ≅≅ {thing for stop all crawler}. Perhaps I should have stated that explicitly in the original comment.

As for the presentation/advertising, I didn't get into it because I don't hold a particularly strong opinion. Well, I do hold a particularly strong opinion, but not one that really distinguishes Anubis from any of the other things. I'm fully onboard with what you're saying -- I find this sort of software extremely hostile and the fact that so many people don't[0] reminds me that I'm not a people.

In my experience, this particular jump scare is about the same as any of the other services. The website is telling me that I'm not welcome for whatever arbitrary reason it is now, and everyone involved wants me to feel bad.

Actually there is one thing I like about the Anubis experience[1] compared to the other ones, it doesn't "Would you like to play a game?" me. As a robot I appreciate the bluntness, I guess.

(the games being: "click on this. now watch spinny. more. more. aw, you lose! try again?", and "wheel, traffic light, wildcard/indistinguishable"[2]).

[0] "just ignore it, that's what I do" they say. "Oh, I don't have a problem like that. Sucks to be you."

[1] yes, I'm talking upsides about the experience of getting **ed by it. I would ask how we got here but it's actually pretty easy to follow.

[2] GCHQ et al. should provide a meatspace operator verification service where they just dump CCTV clips and you have to "click on the squares that contain: UNATTENDED BAG". Call it "phonebooth, handbag, foreign agent".

(Apologies for all the weird tangents -- I'm just entertaining myself, I think I might be tired.)

qwery commented on Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?   lock.cmpxchg8b.com/anubis... · Posted by u/taviso
esperent · 4 months ago
I like to talk seriously about art, representation, and culture. What's wrong with that? It's at least as interesting as discussing databases or web frameworks.

In case you feel it needs linking to the purpose of this forum, the art in question here is being forcefully shown to people in a situation that makes them do a massive context switch. I want to look at the linux or ffmpeg source code but my browser failed a security check and now I'm staring at a random anime girl instead. What's the meaning here, what's the purpose behind this? I feel that there's none, except for the library author's preference, and therefore this context switch wasted my time and energy.

Maybe I'm being unfair and the code author is so wrapped up in liking anime girls that they think it would be soothing to people who end up on that page. In which case, massive failure of understanding the target audience.

Maybe they could allow changing the art or turning it off?

> Anime culture does this all the time >> I don't know what bone you're picking here

I'm not picking any bone there. I love anime, and I love the way it feels so free in borrowing from other cultures. That said, the anime I tend to like is more Miyazaki or Satoshi Kon and less kawaii girls.

qwery · 4 months ago
What does all of this have to do with (depictions of, references to, etc.) Anubis though? You responded to a comment about the mascot surely being a "jackalgirl" as opposed to a "catgirl" because of the Anubis name and other references. It seemed like you had an issue with the artwork, that it wasn't Anubisy enough, or something. Why would the drawing being more like the statues improve the situation?

Now you seem to be saying that anything that isn't what you wanted to find on the website is the problem. This makes sense, it just has nothing to do with what is shown on that page. But you're effectively getting frustrated at not getting to the page you wanted to and then directing your frustration toward the presentation of the "error message". That does not make sense.

> I like to talk seriously about art, representation, and culture. What's wrong with that? It's at least as interesting as discussing databases or web frameworks.

I don't have a problem with talking about art, you'll note that I responded in kind. When I said "I think you're taking it too seriously" I wasn't expecting that to be extrapolated to all subjects, just the one that was being discussed in the local context.

qwery commented on Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?   lock.cmpxchg8b.com/anubis... · Posted by u/taviso
esperent · 4 months ago
Every representation I've ever seen of Anubis - including remarkably well preserved statues from antiquity - are either a male human body with a canine head, or fully canine.

This anime girl is not Anubis. It's a modern cartoon characters that simply borrows the name because it sounds cool, without caring anything about the history or meaning behind it.

Anime culture does this all the time, drawing on inspiration from all cultures but nearly always only paying the barest lip service to the original meaning.

I don't have an issue with that, personally. All cultures and religions should be fair game as inspiration for any kind of art. But I do have an issue with claiming that the newly inspired creation is equivalent in any way to the original source just because they share a name and some other very superficial characteristics.

qwery · 4 months ago
I think you're taking it a bit too seriously. In turn, I am, of course, also taking it too seriously.

> I do have an issue with claiming that the newly inspired creation is equivalent in any way to the original source

Nobody is claiming that the drawing is Anubis or even a depiction of Anubis, like the statues etc. you are interested in. It's a mascot. "Mascot design by CELPHASE" -- it says, in the screenshot.

Generally speaking -- I can't say that this is what happened with this project -- you would commission someone to draw or otherwise create a mascot character for something after the primary ideation phase of the something. This Anubis-inspired mascot is, presumably, Anubis-inspired because the project is called Anubis, which is a name with fairly obvious connections to and an understanding of "the original source".

> Anime culture does this all the time, ...

I don't know what bone you're picking here. This seems like a weird thing to say. I mean, what anime culture? It's a drawing on a website. Yes, I can see the manga/anime influence -- it's a very popular, mainstream artform around the world.

u/qwery

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